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Dunta Robinson Ends Hold Out

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by pgabriel, Sep 6, 2009.

  1. macalu

    macalu Member

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    I thought the contract offer was more than respectful for someone of his talent and especially someone coming off a major injury.
     
  2. Bogey

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    The Texans did offer him a longterm deal that he turned down, from what I've heard it was some pretty good gaurunteed money as well.

    I like how Dunta mentions he couldn't wait to get the pads on and start playing, Um yes you could, you waited for 4 weeks. You could have come in anytime. He should have at least come in a week earlier to get a little live action in prior to the regular season. That's what makes him selfish to me.
     
  3. rezdawg

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    We gave him a longterm deal. It would have paid him very nicely amongst the CBs in the league. He turned it down. We franchised him.

    Yes, I think Dunta is an idiot and Im looking forward to possibly trading him for some picks.
     
  4. msn

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    The Texans made a more than generous offer. He turned it down. Also, if I remember correctly, they wanted him to take an MRI just so they'd know they were making a sound investment. He got all pissy-whiny about that, too; IF I remember correctly.

    So, I've got no sympathy for Dunta. Shut your mouth and play football.
     
  5. couple of d's

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    Agreed. Dunta was one of my favorite players on the team because of his stlyle of play. Dude is b@#!@ about a guaranteed one year contract worth nearly 10 million dollars. Nothing but pure greed and selfishness. But hey other players do it to so its just getting what he deserves. Good riddance.
     
  6. gucci888

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    Sounds like many y'all will hate any player that turns down a longterm deal and holds out. I understand the hate for D-Rob but I'm trying to see it from both side's perspectives and both were in the wrong IMO.

    As far as Dunta, he did get offered a pretty nice contract, especially considering coming off a major injury, but it's not like he's the first person to hold out. On the bright side, he's gonna have to play lights out to earn what he thinks he's worth.

    As far as Rick Smith, you NEVER promise a player that you will not franchise him, period.

    But one thing is for sure, the team NEEDS Dunta right now.
     
  7. msn

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    Yup.

    It's called a "sense of entitlement", and it tends to really piss off those of us in the real world who actually have to go to work every day and won't be making $10 million to cry about this year.

    The poor, poor, rich guy. WFW.
     
  8. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    how is trying to get what you think is fair value a sense of entitlement. it was dunta's time to reup, he should go for what he think's he's worth.

    i'm sure that's what people who work everyday do.
     
  9. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    not to mention the fact that the texans admited that their was a mutual agreement that he wouldn't be franchised
     
  10. msn

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    lol, the whole notion of "fair/unfair" *is* a sense of entitlement. "I deserve the same as that other guy." Oh, really? Even though that other guy didn't just come off a career-threatening injury? Even though your performance has *never* come close to that of said other guy?

    He should take a few reality pills first. He's not even a top five cornerback. He's a "superstar" in our secondary, but that says more about our secondary than it does about him.

    Really, now? Because a lot of the guys I know, myself included, are just glad to be gainfully employed right about now. We don't have a lot of bargaining chips in this economy to shop around.

    And, while the folks who go to work everyday most certainly *do* do their best to find the best salary/benefits they can (I agree with you there), they do NOT SKIP WORK while sitting at home pouting.

    There's no comparison. NFL hold-out titty babies get to stay home while the rest of their team--and most of working America--goes to work every day. Then they roll in in their Beamers at the last possible minute so they won't miss any one-week paychecks that equal more than myself and most of my friends added together.

    Freaking titty-baby. Again, shut up and play football Dunta.
     
  11. msn

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    Then bring your ass to work and leave after the season.

    Or quit.

    But don't stay at home sucking your thumb because those mean bosses broke their promise.

    Again, if the Texans made a promise and broke it that's reprehensible. But it doesn't excuse titty-baby behavior.

    That's my opinion, anyway.
     
  12. HeyDude

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    Either way, if I had to choose 2 out of the 3, I'd probably go with Ryans and Robinson
     
  13. rezdawg

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    Yes, but what exactly do you think he's worth? When the Texans make him an offer that pays him as well as almost any CB in the league and he turns that down...pouts about making 10 million for the upcoming season...and holds out the entire training camp. Come on, he is NOT that good.

    Im not sure what drugs the dude has been smoking, but he needs to get a dose of reality. I'd be impressed with him this year if he can show to be a top 15 CB. The money we offered him completely overvalues his worth.

    He wont be missed...we can use that money we offered him to get a CB that is actually a top 5 CB, not a pseudo one.
     
  14. msn

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    Prima donna money is not money well spent.

    I'm with Rez; show me the draft picks.
     
  15. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    you mean the draft picks that make more guaranteed money than Pro Bowlers before they step on the field...ala Stafford.
     
  16. msn

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    sssuuuuurrrrre... I mean every day veterans with one career-threatening injury behind them get traded for the first pick of the draft, right?
     
  17. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    lets just make one thing clear, he didn't skip work, he wasn't signed.
     
  18. Hey Now!

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    eh, i'm with pgabriel on this; he played by the rules, msn: he's a free agent on the back end of a once-thought career threatening injury - i don't think any of us can fault him for wanting to maximize an opportunity he rightly earned.

    come on, msn... look, he didn't walk out on an existing contract. and he didn't circumvent the system, exploit a loophole or take advantage of the organization. he played by the rules that govern his occupation. you can't blame him for those rules being different than the ones you and i deal with.

    i mean, it's not like he griped about "only" making $9M - he routinely said as much; he understood that was a lot of money. but if you're being forced to take $9M at the cost of $20-25M, and you're less than 2 years away from a devestating injury that many feared could have ended your career... i just don't see how anyone can come down *too* hard on him.

    did he act inappropriately about the franchise tag? yes. whether it was posturing or legitimate disappointment, i thought he handled it poorly. the texans weren't going to let him walk away and to not recognize that - despite what they told you - is really naive.

    otherwise...
     
  19. leroy

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    I still have yet to see anywhere that the Texans said they wouldn't franchise Dunta, but reneged on it. The only reports of that come from DR and his agent. It's absolutely on them if they played the card that he wouldn't be franchised. It was a huge blunder, especially considering that the Texans made a very fair offer to Robinson.

    I'm glad he's back. It's a weak position for the team and he only makes them better. That said, I don't feel bad for him in the least bit. When he was robbed at gun point, I felt bad for him. When he refused to sign a contract that would pay him close to $10 million dollars, I didn't feel the sympathy.
     
  20. msn

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    I misunderstood the rules, as pgabriel has already pointed out.

    The contract offer was fair, though. More than fair.

    Conceded. I misunderstood the rules--thought he was employed and sitting at home pouting.

    Forced to take $9M at the cost of $20M? Pshaw. He turned down that money and painted himself into that corner. Stupid, stupid play.

    Agreed.

    But I have to concede to the points you and pgabriel make.

    It still frustrates the dickens out of me, but I suppose that's the nature of the business.

    He certainly doesn't have any sympathy from me, though.
     

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