Parents Don't want Kids listening to Obama Speech

Well since this is a discussion forum, would you care to discuss how this is a political stunt? There are many of us here that just don't see it.

If you google "Obama school speech" or "Obama 9/8" all you get is articles or bulletin boards about people kicking and screaming about a speech to students about working hard in school and not dropping out. HOW THE HELL IS THIS LEFTIST OR SOCIALIST? Yes, that's all caps Mister Baylor Bear 09.

Nobody is telling you to like Obama... I'm sure you had your mind made up a long time ago that you didn't trust him. He is still your president, THE PRESIDENT OF THE COUNTRY THAT YOU ARE A CITIZEN OF. I'm getting sick and tired of people acting like they belong to some other rogue version of the country. You don't have to worship the guy... but for the love of god, HE'S TALKING TO KIDS ABOUT STAYING IN SCHOOL. If you think this is socialist propaganda, etc. then you are a F'ING MORON (Summoning Batman's fierceness).

 

Or how about we look at the facts and realize that some kids look up to Obama. Some kids who grew up without a father, like Obama. Some kids who were raised by their grandparents, like Obama was. He was pushed very hard by his kin and that's how he came to be where he is. Not everybody has a peachy life or parents who push them. Get your panties out of a twist already.

 

That was my point. I couldn't disagree with Obama more politically, but among public figures, he's one of the best role models available. For poor black kids that connect with him naturally, he's a great role model.

 

Why do you feel that you have to shout to be heard? You're missing the point completely. I guarantee you that Obama would not be giving this speech had his agenda gone differently. His speech isn't leftist, but his agenda is and that is why people are losing trust in him when he pulls stunts like this.

And yes, I see you know where the caps lock key is. And if you must know I am not a mister. I am a miss. And if you really must know I am a black miss. I hate resorting to that but you've given me no other choice. I tell my children about the importance of school everyday because that is MY JOB not his.

 

Certifiably nutso.

Remember when Nancy Reagan told school kids to just say no to drugs. Remember how liberal parents were outraged at her desperate political stunt and her weak attempt to disguise Reagan's dastardly conservative agenda of being anti-drugs and indoctrinate the children of America? Remember how liberal parents didn't want any part of it because the government had no business doing their parenting for them? It was an outrage!!!

Yeah, I didn't think so.

 

Wow, I'll give you credit that you finally figured out I wear panties.

And the facts are that more and more schools are withdrawing from this event. And you're right, no one has a peachy life. I certainly don't, and I'm glad. Stay classy.

 

You keep proving my point with the name calling my friend. It's funny to see people desperately hang on for dear life when they see that their ship is sinking fast.

 

When I was in school, I remember being addressed by Bush Sr. in his speech to school children. I barely knew anything about politics at that point or even what the difference between Democrats and Republicans were. I didn't feel like I was being "indoctrinated" and it didn't affect my eventual political leanings in the slightest.

This is about the messenger, not the message. And it's the parents who care, not the kids who, for the most part, probably don't give a sh** about the political affiliation of the President who's addressing them.

It's almost as if it's the parents willing to hold their kids out of school who are the ones indoctrinating their kids. As if they're going to deny their children the opportunity to make their own decisions about what they believe in by imposing their own viewpoints while denying exposure to dissenting opinions. And that they're will to take that far enough to shield their children from a message they agree with if it comes from a person representing the rival political party.

I'm thankful that my parents were hands off in this area. I was free to determine my own opinions on issues and which issues I cared most about. As a result, my father and I are Democrats while my mother and sister are Republicans. When I saw Bush Sr. speak when I was in 6th grade, it was absolutely not an issue in our household. My father would never have denied me that opportunity. My parents very smart about not imposing their views or opinions on me and letting me come to conclusions on my own.

 

I'm black but I don't connect with him. I guess because I'm not poor right?

 

MiSS Baylor Bear 09,

The large majority of people you see "losing trust in him" are the same people that voted against him. Please stop fooling yourself. I'm about as moderate as they come and I don't agree with a large number of Obama's policies (especially when it comes to energy since that is the industry that I work in).

You do realize that kids are curious by nature (you have them so you definitely know) and will see the speech regardless via youtube/google/etc. The more you teach them "Don't listen to that guy... he's a socialist, leftist, elitist peabrain... and he is that way because I said so" the more they are going to disagree with you in the future.

And btw, gender and race don't matter to me... I only have zero tolerance for those with zero tolerance. This speech has nothing to do with pushing any agenda or his policies. If you would like to agree to disagree, everybody has the right to their very very out of touch opinion.

 

I hope you feel better now that you got that out of your system.

Over half of my family voted for Obama and they are starting to question their decision now as much as they hate to admit it. I'm not fooling myself. Frankly, they were the ones who were fooling themselves.

And thanks for the parental advice but no thanks just the same. My children are in their teens now and they couldn't agree with me more.

To say that this speech has nothing to do with his agenda is pure ignorance. The speech itself may not have any words about his politics but you have to admit that this speech couldn't have come at a more convenient time. It's not complicated.

And I know I have the right to my opinion, I just stated it.

 

The ship is sinking fast? It's a long time until 2012. Eight years of Bush lies and incompetence didn't bring anything of the sort of complete r****dedness that we've seen from conservatives in 8 months of Obama's Presidency. Tea rallies, the birther crazies, death threat preachers and gun toting town halls and hunger strikes for Obama's downfall etc, the Obama has a deep hatred for white people crusade, the constant idiotic socialist and communist talk, and now Obama is "indoctrinating children" to learn to read and write. You people have lost your damn minds.

The only point that's being proved is that conservatism has become a national disgrace and the movement will do anything to stop progress no matter the cost.

The mantra continues to be everything in moderation except conservatism which is always right, will not compromise, will not yield, and will do anything short of actual violent engagement to derail the will of the majority of Americans.

 

I didn't call you any names. I was referring to your comments. The next quality point you make will really be the first. You keep saying Obama's speech to children is convenient timing. Is that because children have such a powerful lobby in Congress that they'll sway the vote? What a brilliant tactic by Obama to target the children with staying in school and doing their homework, that will pay huge dividends on health care reform. Obama is so busted!!!

 

Oh classic, just classic. The bring-up-Bush number. We've heard it before. We get it. You're still caught up in name calling when you're not looking at the real issue: America needs help. Goodness, put aside your politics for a second. They are so small, so small compared to the emptiness that people are living with and all we can do is argue like middle school children about who is right and who is wrong. Get over it. Get over your selfish pride and do something. Do something that will make a difference in someone's life. Smile at that person at work who you pass everyday. Make conversation with the toll booth worker. I'm tired of this arguing. It's not going to make anything better.

 

Certifiably nutso maybe?

It is convenient timing and children could care less about this. They don't care about politics. I'm saying that this stunt comes at an awful convenient time when everything else has failed this far for Obama.

 

Convenient time? It's the beginning of the friggin school year. You know, the odds of students having major exams right now is pretty low. What would he stand to gain politically by having this speech on 9/8?

Actually, I agree with you that this is a bad time for a speech like this that would rile up the right and far right. He should be pushing for more beneficial dialogue when it comes to health care. Instead, we see a ton of hooplah from Rush, Glenn Beck, and whatever hatemongering A-holes there are on hatetalk radio/TV to get the masses riled up and take the eye off of getting healthcare reform.

 

Well who would have thought that a speech urging kids to work hard at their education would rile the yahoos.

 

Congratulations on going full r****d at 3 am on a thursday night. This post and the others preceding it will amuse countless people on an otherwise boring friday before a three day weekend.

 

Yes! Thanks, baylorbear!

 

Thirded. I was getting irritated by the amount of press time this stupid "story" was getting. Thanks to baylorbear, I have been reminded once again to just take solace by laughing at the ignorant.



Good times.