I don't have a garage on my house, just a driveway and tool shed, but I have never found cat prints on my car. I drive a black car so maybe they don't like walking on it because it gets too hot.
LOL -- I really thought the part about a cat spraying you in the face would do it. For future reference, I would NEVER really insult a man's grilling abilities.
I'm glad to see that some of us can still be lighthearted about the topic... People started to put their cranky-pants on for a while there.
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i'm exactly with you here. plus i'm VERY allergic to them. nothing like waking up and stepping outside for a few days in a row and smelling my neighbors cat poop on my porch. i would never harm them tho-trap, kidnap, call SPCA, etc. i have told my neighbors that i'm not a fan but that's where i'll leave it until someone brings if up in a thread and i get to vent.
Kidless too? Actually there wasn't one anywhere near until about 1 month ago and I may give it a try since I'd rather not spend 2 hours of my life that way. However 2 things: 1) While maybe that would substitute 2 hours of my hard work for $ and 20 minutes in wipedown, that still doesn't solve cat paw prints on the windshield aafter that. 2) Irresponsible pet owners don't care about neighbors and you sound like 1 of those because your posts don't do anything but come at me and my routine on my property on my land. Cats can't be held responsible for their actions - they are just cats doing what cats do. Owners should be responsible but too many times are not. You are one of those living in denial that your cat is doing any harm. Come on lets hear it - My name is juicystream and I'm a irresponsible cat owner. [Edit]I might add to somewhat see my side - If there was a Should-dogs-be-barking-all-night-long thread where you have a neighbor with a barking dog and my response is get over it and get you some ear plugs - would that help you and your problem?
both my wife and son are allergic to cats. neither has problems walking by our outdoor cat or going out to feed him for that matter. The cat is fixed and doesn't spray. He generally stays in our yard because thats where he lives and gets fed. He sleeps under the car not on it. He doesn't shed on my patio furniture because he doesn't go into the dogs turf. If DD had a dog, or a water gun, or a can of pennies, or a sling shot and a handful of rocks he'd never have a cat problem again.
The thing that trips me out about this thread is the inability of cat owners to understand that it is wrong and take shots at others for pointing it out. I think everybody in this thread would have a much differrent opinion if it was your neighbors themselves or their kids doing this daily. If your neighbor's ran all around your fenced front and back yard, laid in your lawn, tore up your garden, pissed on your grill, dumped on your lawn, and threw mud on your car every day I don't think anybody here would say it is just a minor nuisance. Just wash your car off daily, or spend 5-10 dollars getting washed, or you should have had it covered. Somehow because it is your pet though, you feel no need to prevent any of these things from happenning and say we should be happy if that is the worst thing in our lives. I don't think one person has said it is the worst thing in their lives, just that it was one of the things that pisses them off that they shouldn't have to deal with.
I have a son and another on the way. My cat is perfectly healthy and hurts nobody, so I'd call myself responsible. If paw prints on your windshield harms you, you may want to see a doctor about that. As I've stated earlier, my cat actually stays around the house, and as if my neighbors would care. I'm sure they are just happy to be done with the guy that lived there before me who had multiple unfixed male cats. My name is ArtV and I can't handle the big bad
If people in Alaska can deal with and live with bears walking around their neighborhoods and people across the south can deal with 'gators without killing them or shaking their hands in fury at the heavens, you can nut up and deal with a little p***y cat. Do you shoot birds when they dump on your car? How many raccoons or possums have you killed for "tresspassing"? Do you dig through your yard to make sure no earthworms are illegally violating your animal-free zone? Nature and the many denzens of the animal kingdom are messy. Be a man and deal with it. You know what's really going to piss you guys off? The predominant trend in wild cat control is catch, neuter, and release. <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/2jw_x7aFlYE&hl=en&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/2jw_x7aFlYE&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object> <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/A-zIKrxfJdI&hl=en&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/A-zIKrxfJdI&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>
Why do you(and other cat haters) keep ignoring the difference between what are likely feral cats and what are people's fixed cats doing nothing. I never believed cats should be outside, until I got one. The cat won't stay inside. I always thought they should be inside for safety, not because they were a problem. I've never had a fixed cat come in my yard, though I have had problems with feral cats. To be honest I'd love to have fewer animals because I don't like how much it cost me to care for them, but I love them and can't stand to see them mistreated. Choices become: Leave cat alone let it be feral create more kitties and allow it to be a real nuisance. Lock cat in box and never let out. Kill cat. Care for the cat, get it fixed, and let him go outside and risk he might get paw prints on ArtV's windshield. I really would hate to waste two hours of everyday for him as he washes it off. I can only imagine how he gets around pollen. Must was his car perpetually. It is the only possible way he can stand it.
I feel like pollen is the best comparison to outdoor cats. It's a nuissance and I'm allergic to it but I'm not about to go tell my neighbors they've got to keep their pollen in their own yards. If I want to live in a bubble I should have bought a unit in a highrise. But I like having a yard where I can make feeble attempts to grow things. Cats are what they are. No more and no less. They can and do wander and can get over a fence in a way a dog can't. But tiny little cat prints really aren't worth stressing out about. And my dog seems to enjoy the action when a feral cat makes its way onto our property.
This is such a strange debate. It seems like the focus is almost totally on the effect that a free-roaming cat has on the neighborhood as opposed to the effect that the neighborhood has on a free-roaming cat. All these owners that say they let their cat go outside because "it's vaccinated" or "it pretty much just stays in my yard" are missing a major point. For there are a plethora of harmful things you are exposing your cat to if you let them outside. They could get attacked and possibly killed by another animal, hit by a car, contract ringworm (which can spread to you and your family), and many other things. Heck, they could even get abducted and abused by some idiot teenager that thinks it's cool to torture animals (one used to live down the street from my family). And don't think that having a collar on your cat will keep it from getting mistaken for a stray, because cats are quite good at getting those things off if they really want to. As someone cited earlier in the thread, the average life span of an indoor cat is so far beyond that of an outdoor cat, you're practically volunteering to cut your pet's life by 60-70% if you let them roam outside. If that doesn't convince you to keep your cat indoors, then the fact that your neighbors may not want your cat on their property should be enough to make the decision for you. Here's an interesting excerpt from petsplace.com about the physiological effects on a cat that lives outside, which lead directly to health problems. I mean really...who benefits from having the cat outside? The cat? Sure, there are things that the cat can do outside that it can't do inside, and one could argue that it might make their day a little more enjoyable. But, while I don't want to equate a human to a pet, the same could be said about letting small children play in the street, or ride their bikes all over the neighborhood without any limitations on how far they can go, or when they need to be home. I can pretty much guarantee that most kids would love that freedom, but as a parent it wouldn't be worth it because you know the risks. Why, even if it's to a lesser degree, should the thought process be any different for a pet?
I think everyone is missing the real issue here and that issue is the toolness of DaDa. He knew what this thread would turn into. He knew it could end up in the D&D and he showed his class by starting this thread right after a bbs member's cat died (Yak). Yak was clearly upset about his cat, he let us know it contracted FIV or something from possibly being outside so DaDa went ahead and started this thread. Great Timing and great class DaDa. This is your way of telling Yak its his fault for letting his cat outside. You're a jerk. And also in this thread DD said he doesn't hate cats. But the trusty search function will show you numerous posts where he has said otherwise over the years. DD is a fraud.
My family. God that cat is loud when it wants to go outside. If the cat is inside I'm allowed no privacy. Originally we locked him up in the Laundry room and that didn't go so well. He always darted out the door when given the chance. Eventually we gave up on being able to stop him. He was born to a feral cat outside. Even though I caught him as a kitten he never quit missing the outside as he grew into a full-size cat, though he is still tiny for most cats.
Congrats on the kids. See there it is again. You don't care. You don't care that someone spends 2 hours doing something and someone lets their pet "ruin" their nice work in a matter of minutes. The problem is not your cat - true - it's not the cat's owner - it's the owner of the car. You keep saying get over it when who is really responsible for the problem? I say you are not a reponsible pet owner.
Rep for you. You've expressed my exact sentiments on the matter and supplied factual evidence to back it up. I feel very strongly about this.
