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New Pops to the Rox rumor (UPDATE: Confirmed Rockets reach verbal agreement)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by GBRocket, Aug 14, 2009.

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  1. v3.0

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    I want to hear some definite moves you would do to replace Yao and Tmac. All I hear from you is crying about what the Rockets haven't done and jockying for players like Tim Thomas, Ricky Davis, and DeAndre Jordan. Those don't seem like Lakers type of moves, who you jocky for also.
     
  2. leebigez

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    V.3, The lakers got 2 young talents and 1 overpaid vet for shaq. If the Rockets put Yao on the market,with his off court revenue, what do you think the rox could get for yao? Memphis got Gasol and 3 1's for Pau. What would the clipps,warriors,blazers or knicks be willing to give up for Yao? It wouldn't be sexy and Les would probably need to do some ass kissing, but how long does this house of cards stay up?

    I'm still trying to understand what a guy with 0 leverage in kobe bryant wouldve done. Where was he going to go. You must also remember that kobe was a prospect, but he wasn't a garnett type prospect. Garnett the yr prior was the first high schooler drafted since Dawkins or Willoughby. Also a yr earlier, west said he was against drafting high school players. 12 teams passed because they didn't think he was that great of a prospect.I will give you shaq and even kareem but making those other shrewd moves really made those teams. Also you proved my point that its better to get rid of players a year early vs a yr late.
     
  3. leebigez

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    Pops have game tape and Dorsey doesn't . I think Dorsey is going to be the better defender/shotblocker.Its kinda like replication with Scola,Landry,Hayess,Pops,and Dorsey. All are really close in terms of size and length. None can mask each others minuses. Ideally, you want versitility. Scola and Landry are poor defenders. In a good scenerio, landry would be either a long shotblocker or a put the ball on the floor hybrid type.Hayes kinda fits, but he can't block any shots and dorsey hasn't proved it yet.Pops is in the landry mold except he can't shoot from further than 7 ft.

    I know I brought other things into it. Do I like pops? Not as much because the rockets have landry and dorsey.
     
  4. Deckard

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    Man, that drove me crazy. I'm obviously a fan of the Coogs, and I couldn't believe it, although McCray was very solid. Argh! :mad:
     
  5. v3.0

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    You tell me what the Rockets could get from those teams you listed. Out of all those teams, the only players I'm interested in are BRoy and Aldridge. Blazers won't do that deal. The rest of those teams' players doesn't get me too excited and say "well the new Rockets era is in good hands". I'm sure you'll think of some lousy deal for some lousy players and hype it up that the Rockets are heading into the right direction, but those don't sound like Lakers type of moves. I want some Lakers grandslam moves from you, it's what you've been crying about, then let's hear it.

    I vaguely remember hearing or reading that Kobe would have played in Italy if he wouldn't have gotten the trade to LA. I think he already signed with an agent so college was out. If 12 teams knew that Kobe didn't want to play for them, then it's elementary of why they didn't draft him. He had workouts for the Lakers prior to the draft, the writing was on the wall. And you're really holding West to what he said prior to seeing Kobe in workouts? I'm sure he saw Kobe in workouts and said to himself "Screw what I said before, the Lakers could be set for the 10 plus years if this move works out. And he wants to play for US!"
     
  6. leebigez

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    v.3, the team that holds his rights wouldve held them until they got blue in the face. Remember sabonis?

    In terms of portland, you're not getting aldridge or roy, but to scan that roster and they have a lot of good talent. The point is getting young players with upside and maybe a pick. When you get young talent, it can always be traded for more talent. Portland has 2's,3's and 5's to spare. I could give you combiations after this year and its obvious theyrre closer to the ring than us, but you might be too close to the forest to see the trees.
     
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    Charlotte could have held on to the rights of Kobe until they got blue in the face, but if Kobe didn't want to play for them, then what would be the point? They got the best deal they thought they could get for Kobe from LA, because Kobe told his agent he'd prefer to play with the Lakers. It's really that simple, and you keep arguing that it wasn't so, but it's not some hidden secret.

    As for portland, like I said, no players outside of Broy and LMA gets me to pull that deal. You haven't even said any names yet, which makes me think you're all rhetoric and loves to beat around the bush but never have definite answers. Let me know when you're done beating around the bush and decide to back up your talk with real answers.
     
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    In all fairness, rodney was a really good college player and he was polished. That's why I always say the more athletic, the bigger the ball of clay. What determines greatness or being a bust is work ethic and passion for the game. If rodney and clyde have the same work ethic, clyde will be the better player because of his physical tools. The physical tools set your ceiling and that's why gms gamble on the super athlete. When I use that term, its more than run and jump. Its lateral quicknesss, explosion in tight places, and also the ability to get separation. People like to say Battier wasn't a good athlete which is a joke. He did the superman drill more than guys like darius miles,stro swift, and athletes of that caliber. Battier never worked on his offensive game to make himself a effective offensive player. He never improves his ball handling which helps you create space. One of the slowest guy to play sf/sg was chris mullin, but mullin could create separation because of his ball handling.
     
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    I guess you equate bball iq with circular logic. If that's the case, then you're a genius lol. Btw, Tupac already destroyed Mobb Deep. I just think you're mad:

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    I'm just glad we're getting Greg Poppovich to the Rockets. Outstanding work Morey!
     
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    looks like the guy won 'garbagetime player of the year' in those videos.

    wow. :rolleyes:
     
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    Way off topic but Cham is much better than Mobb Deep. You can go to record stores overseas and his CD's will always be available for sale. I heard on 97.9 that he is one of the wealthier rap artists. Plus he makes great mix tapes and is known to wreck.

    I'm cooler than Denzel Washington wit mine :D
     
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    I hope you mean Mobb Deep today and not Mobb Deep back in the day.
     
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    hopefully he can dunk for us like landray can.
     
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    Mobb Deep today, is not Mobb Deep.


    Show me a chamiilionaire track, and I'll show you 2 superior Mobb Deep samples...
     
  16. saleem

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    He probably can,but he seems more like a garbage time player to me.
     
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    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/s...s-fits-the-Rockets-mold-8151366-54638427.html
     
  18. FanSince93

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    I am not sure where we are going with all these small, insignificant deals. I guess more of these similar deals are in the line. How hard can it be to build a lower-mediocre roster in a very tough western conference?
    David Anderson, Pops....... then trade landry and brooks or whatever for another bench warmer........... we are what we are - no Tracy, no Yao.....we are a lower mediocre team.
    Getting excited about signing scrubs at domestic and international levels?
    Oh well, its the off season of a team that is NOT sure if they are rebuilding or competing.
     
  19. saleem

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    Bravo,they hope to compete if McGrady can be traded or in the extremely unlikely event of him returning to his near best,but IMO this is delusional. It's better to rebuild from the start.
     
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