I would take him for a Brent Barry type deal. But I still dont see him signing for that much. But thats just me.
well if its only Miami and Houston only in the running for Allen Iverson then I'd be absolutely so glad. cos Miami is already about 3 million over the LUXURY TAX cap and their owner is not known to fork out big cash unless its for like keeping D-Wade happy and stuff. Miami I heard was only rumored willing to offer him a 2 million one year deal. so according to the other thread: thunder--they got their youth movement so why do they want AI to go their and take a dump then leave? pacers--they didnt even match the 4 million a year offer sheet for Jarrett Jack and I thought that was a bargain contract...now they want AI? rockets--yeah baby we offering 5 million and 40 mpg and a shoe deal to boot!
In Morey we trust. This brings me back to my Rubio scenario if this is true... -Pick up AI for a 1, or according to the rumor 2 year deal. -Package up either Lowry and someone else, T-Mac? for a big man, M. Gasol? -Buy the rights to Rubio from Minnesota and buyout his contract from DKV 2010/2011 Rockets: PG: Brooks/Rubio SG: AI/Budinger/(Taylor or White) SF: Ariza/Battier PF: Scola/Anderson/Landry C: Yao/M.Gasol/Anderson Show me a network that wouln't air that roster!
we can't buy out Rubio's contract. We can only help pay $500k towards the buyout. Rubio would have to pay out of his own pocket to get out of his European deal.
we should re-sign steve francis too. anklebreakers volume 4 - geriatric edition. aside from the obvious business incentives, on the surface of it, signing A.I. doesn't make much sense from the personnel perspective. i'm not for tanking, but non-developmental winning serves no purpose. if the team wins, the only benefit is derived through the growth and production of the young players who caused the success. winning meaningless games with aging vets who serve no role in the grand scheme is ineffectual at best, not even taking into consideration the lofty cost of losing out on lottery seeding. in the case of iverson, if he doesn't help us win, you've stunted aaron brooks' development. if he does help us win, you have lost out on a higher pick with no long term or even short term gain. i think he clearly has a lot left in the tank. incredibly, he has yet to have experienced a significant physical decline, unlike mcgrady. i think last year was an aberration - he was a terrible fit in that system in detroit. the only benefits i can see is: a) if he proves he still has it and is flipped at the deadline to a playoff contender for a draft pick. i don't know how likely this is as i don't see too many playoff teams willing or even able to accommodate his style of play. b) if the thought here is that he still has another 3 years of productive play left in him. this team has the best group of role players in the league, willing to defend and do anything necessary to win. he could be a major weapon when yao returns on a team with title aspirations. if mcgrady is traded along with brooks, he could fit aaron brooks' role of the scoring guard for the immediacy of yao's prime. if mcgrady is retained, you could possibly see the two working together in reversed roles, prolonging each other's effectiveness. BTW: could one of the mods change the title of this thread to reflect the possible bucher mention? i had no idea that there was an update from a legitimate source and only re-entered by chance. i really had no intention of returning after reading the first page and i suspect many others are behaving the same.
I revisited the thread yesterday night because of all the responses and the relatively high star rating (I would expect a baseline rumor thread for an aging star to be 1 or 2 stars). Still not totally sure Bucher actually said what was reported. And I have similar thoughts as you on Iverson.
We need a SG. AI plays SG. How would he stunt AB's growth? AB's growth is stunted when there's a healthy Yao Ming, as we've seen. It won't be stunted because of an AI. AB should never be a #1 or #2 option. Currently, he is. AI is a year removed from scoring like 27PPG. A one year rental hurts nobody. It's a lot better than starting Battier and Ariza together, that's for sure.
It hurts our draft position. I'd all for signing Iverson. I'd love AI to be on the Rockets. Cos then it'd be the funnest team to watch in the NBA under Adelman...(okay except Durant and the Thunder =p)
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=sheridan_chris&page=Iverson-090819 "Are Miami, New York and Charlotte the teams that Allen Iverson is interested in signing with? Yes, according to a post on Iverson's Twitter account on Tuesday. "My people just informed me that we are getting close to a deal. I asked them to call me when its done. I am so ready to know!" said a post on Iverson's Twitter account late Wednesday morning. The next post, 18 minutes later, said, "I have not been this eager with anticipation since the night before the NBA Draft in 96. Then I knew where I was going, now I want to know." So, what's the deal? Are the Heat, Knicks or Bobcats legitimately interested in the eight-time All-Star coming off the worst season of his career? And what about the Los Angeles Clippers and Memphis Grizzlies, two other teams that have been linked to Iverson this summer?" No mention of Houston in the above ESPN post...
I reeeeeeeeeaally think Les would rather salvage the season to whatever point possible than tank for a good draft spot. A bad season = bad ticket sales and (so far) no TV. Iverson is obviously an idea to resurrect the season, get people interested, that "player with more tread on the tires than people think" that Morey was maybe referencing a few weeks ago on 1560 sports radio. To me, what's interesting is that signing Iverson would have to involve another deal. I still ask, Can we even sign the guy? With what money? Can Detroit still S&T him? Or was he renounced in order for Detroit to get Gordon and Villanueva?
ah, I was unaware of that. Thanks for clearing that up for. We will have to wait and see if he brings suit to dkv, if he hasn't already.
I kinda like this iverson thing. I wouldnt mine going to battle for just a year with a lineup of.. PG- Allen Iverson SG- Trevor Ariza SF- Shane Battier PF- Luis Scola C- David Anderson Also a good run lineup off the bench PG- Brooks SG- Iverson SF-Chase Bud. PF- Landry C-Hayes I imagine Cook,Barry,Lawry could get moved to get a Quality backup Big man Down low.
hey that only makes it a win-win situation but what if A.I. comes off his practically "non-season" on the Pistons and had plenty of rest and toning and comes back firing with his new team? that would be awesome but you know we're gonna get bounced out of the first round even if we make the playoffs... I say the best solution is to sign A.I. for a solid 5 million and get him 40 or 50 shots a game and let him get 50 points a game shooting us out of games...then we'd have a one-man-team suuuperstar just like Tmac was in Orlando and the most lethal wing comination in the league with Tmac and A.I. choice
AI will be the sg of the team. Brooks or Lowry will man the point. The team needs a scoring sg and AI fits that and for the worth of a 2 year contract. Pretty safe if it is real.
Iverson is not coming because of 3 reason 1. McGrady owns the #3 jersey 2. No guaranteed starting spot 3. NO $$$
I don't think there is anything to this, but if anyone could handle AI, it would be Coach Adelman, IMO (is he really going to want to play with one of the worst teams in the league under Brown, who he's had sucess with?). Heck, it would sure be entertaining (possibly in a train wreck kinda way... you never know), and he'd be a possible trade chip and expiring, depending on the deal. Would require some work from Morey to rescue the cap situation, however, which is going to be needed, regardless.
hmmm I like the "player with more tread on the tires" note. He is perhaps hinting at a potentially volatile and unpredictable signing. Signing Allen Iverson fits that idea alot. But he could also be targeting that statement on someone like Marcin Gortat or Marquis Daniels who we've already missed out on. yeah this team seriously needs starpower to attract viewers and fans to keep gluing to their tvs and seats to watch the team, but I think Les would count on the fans counting on Tmac to come back to his "elite status[] and still having hope in the team. Whether he thinks thats sufficient is anyone's guess. The thing is with this current squad there is some actual playoff aspirations and hope. At least from the fans point of view. We all know bad ticket sales will be inevitable for this upcoming season until a big acquisition goes down but is the extra few bucks worth the future gain in revenue when we get a top 5 pick and goes all in with all our stars back after next season? I guess A.I. has got his special aura that makes people watch him and coming to the games even though his team is a losing one. We should all have in mind that Les LOVES stars and starpower. He brought in Tmac, Ron Artest to name a few. That makes a A.I. signing that much more likely and logical. Oh and you gotta remember we still have our full Mid-Level Exception available to sign A.I. We were rumored to be offering him 5 million. Detroit wouldn't do any kind of s&t anyways. so: 1- A.I. keeps the fans hooked 2- No A.I. = a bunch of scrubs "developing" 3- One year rental wouldn't hurt much. 4- A.I. is someone we can call our own superstar 5- everyone would stop complaining about a eventless offseason
