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can we win a championship with our current roster?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Chamillionaire, Aug 18, 2009.

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can we win a championship with our current roster?

  1. yes

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    26.4%
  2. no

    240 vote(s)
    55.6%
  3. with a few tweaks here and there

    78 vote(s)
    18.1%
  1. durvasa

    durvasa Member

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    He's a worse defensive player and he's missed more games over the last 3 seasons than McGrady. He does not create shots for his teammates. He's a better shooter.

    I don't think he'd be much of an upgrade over the player McGrady will likely be when he returns, and he certainly wouldn't be enough to make us championship-caliber.
     
  2. BizzleRocket

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    It's not possible to be inferior defensively to Tracy. He's missed more games, but I still would trust him more to be healthy than Tracy. We don't need somebody to create shots for teammates, Yao being doubled can create shots for teammates.

    Even Rip Hamilton is an upgrade over She-Mac.
     
  3. Rocket86

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    Hopefully not an extinct specie. :D
     
  4. durvasa

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    I forgot that Yao playing was still part of the hypothetical scenario.
     
  5. BizzleRocket

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    Pretty much......Redd would be a better 2nd option to Yao, because I'm sure he'd be more willing to accept that role than Tracy.
     
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    So is this healthy yao going to create shot like he did against utah in the playoffs when they played single coverage? I don't think he does it enough and don't know how often he can do it but when he's committed, tracy is one of the best defenders in the league. Redd is no where close to the player tracy is. Redd is a really good shooter, but when he's not shooting well, he's a zero on the court.
     
  7. LewLLOYD

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    Yes we can. AB will have to be an all-star and Scola will be called the most underrated player in the league. Ariza will get lots of credit. Shane will be called out leader. Landry, Hayes and Lowry will play excellent all season but will continue to be unrecognized.
     
  8. BizzleRocket

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    25/10 you mean? Yeah that's a pretty good stat line if you ask me, FG% and BPG wise no, but 25/10? Yes.

    Tracy one of the best defenders? LOL, I've heard it all.

    Redd's presence alone as a shooter will impact Yao, See what Rashard does with Dwight for more examples. Redd's defense is better than Tracy's since he's willing to play it more and, You do realize Redd came out of College as a defender right?
     
  9. leebigez

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    Bizzle, Yao can never be the #1 on a championship team. The sooner you understand that, the better.
     
  10. BizzleRocket

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    History says otherwise. Tim Duncan, Shaq, Hakeem, Moses, I can go on.... History says big men can win championships, Obviously Yao is not in there level or caliber or even planet, but it given the fact that he's an elite big man in Today's game, I would trust him more than most players in the NBA today.

    The only big I trust over Yao is Tim Duncan.
     
  11. leebigez

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    How convenient you left out the 44% and 5 to's a game. Redd presence will do nothing because they will single yao and single redd. When tracy played because he can get into the lane, they tilt the defense towards him. Stop stat watching and watch the games.
     
  12. BizzleRocket

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    Single Yao? No player in the NBA is capable of playing behind him (see 2009 playoffs). None. Fronting? Yes, that's pretty easy for the opponent but that's where Redd and our PFs come in.
     
  13. leebigez

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    History says if you're dominant, yes. Yao isn't even dominant in this sorry era of big men. You put him in a class he clearly doesn't belong. That's the beginning of your failed logic.
     
  14. Bob Sacamano

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    If we're capable of winning a championship with our current roster, how many teams in the NBA aren't capable of doing so? Can't be more than a handful.
     
  15. leebigez

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    Utah played Okur straight up on Yao and he struggled. A fronting defense is single coverage also.When being fronted by the morre physical knicks, dream still dominated. If a simple front can render a player useless, how can that guy ever lead a team to a title?
     
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    a healthy yao and mac?

    it will never happen.
     
  17. BizzleRocket

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    How is 25/10 and struggling? 44% might be the struggled part, but he got the line a lot I believe, so really, Try again. There's a reason why I constantly destroy you in everything.
     
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    SamFisher has the best post in the entire thread so far. Thanks for the laugh.
     
  19. BizzleRocket

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    Using your terrible logic, Let's see...

    Kendrick Perkins managed to netralized Dwight Howard in the 2009 2nd round Playoffs, So I'm guessing Dwight Howard can't lead a team to the Title? In my opinion, he really can't but those reasonings should be enough for you.
     
  20. leebigez

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    Destroy me in everything? Ok, destroyer, if you're the best big man in basketball and majority of you're shots are from 10ft and you shoot 44% on single coverage, blk 7 shots in 7 games and turn the ball over 5 times a game, how is that not struggling? I'm not even going to mention how a 6'8 pf killed you on the offensive end.

    So now that we have that laid out, let move on to some of your other asinine comments. You asked did I know Redd was known as a defender coming out of college? Maybe you weren't alive and probably just started watching basketball, but Redd and defense have never been used in the same sentence. Redd's knock coming out was if he could defend in the pros and get his shot off. Its sad that you bring up something about Redd and what he did in college, I guess you didn't watch when tracy shut dirk down and was dropping 30 against dallas. What about when stackhouse started going off, tracy started guarding him, and it was like stack wasn't even on the court. Better yet, go ask rip or allen houston about tracy's defense.

    Then you bring Howard into the conversation. You discount perkins being a good defender but don't include the job he did against Yao in the regular season. What about the job dalembert did against Yao? The same dalembert who howard destroyed in the playoffs. Howard helped his team get to the finals, but he isn't the #1 option because like yao he has holes in his game. The difference is that no matter how howard does offensively, he still blks shots and grabs a boatload of rebounds. You will never win a title with yao being a #1 option just like as long as howard has his holes you won't either.
     

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