Top 5 players in the league entering the 2009/2010 season

I'd take Howard. Yao is worthless when you don't get him the ball in the post, and he struggles against smaller lineups. Howard will get as many points as Yao, but he'll do it by grabbing offensive rebounds and throwing it down. He is extra possessions, and he's also a better defensive player.

 

But If our teams played eachother, MINE would dominate EVERY time.






Just remember that...

 

For those of you saying Yao is better than Howard... does that mean Yao is also a top 5 player? or even a top 10 player going into the 09/10 season? Just curious...

 

Hm...Not necessarly. It's obvious you are utilizing him to it's fullest if you get the ball down to Yao, but It's a stretch to say Yao is worthless without the ball. He can play defense, rebound, set screens, etc..... Do things a big man can do as well, Dwight may do it better, but he can't create for his teammates as well as Yao can. Sorry, but Yao's tangibles make me want to put him above Dwight.

As a 1st option, I'd take Yao. As a 2nd, 3rd, whatever option other than 1st, I'd take Dwight though.

 

EXACTLY! It makes absolutely no sense to me how this guy can be considered to be a top 5 player in this league when all of his points are off of dunks. He has NO moves whatsoever! He does an amazing job of defending the paint and dunking the ball, but thats about it. I would like someone to tell me why he deserves to be in the top 5.

 

Yao is an average defender because he is very slow. I'm embarrassed for him every time he tries to take a charge. He is a fairly average rebounder, and I could get Ryan Bowen to set screens. Yao is a great offensive player, and would do more damage if he didn't put the ball on the floor or if he ran more screen and pop plays ala the Cavs with big Z.

The only reason you take Yao over Howard is for non-basketball reasons.

 

The Magic only face Yao twice a year, and are unlikely to face the Rockets in the Finals. Its kind of like the Bobcats owning the Lakers for whatever reason. It doesn't do them any good.

 

Yao is an average defender? I don't think so. He's one of the best low post defenders in the league, can block/alter shots very well. His size and presence alone makes him an above average defender at the worst. He is an average rebounder though. Yao's offensive game makes me want to put him above Dwight.

If he is healthy, Sure. The only reason why Dwight wins this debate most of the time is because Yao is injured more than half the time. Most analysts I've heard taken Yao like Jon Barry, Jamal Mashburn, Gary Payton and even our own Clyde Drexler.

Dwight is not A top 5 player and neither is Yao. If Yao had that aggression and killer instinct Shaq had, he probably would be a Top 5 player, but since he doesn't he's not.

Just curious, do you have more reasons?

 

Just to put it out there:

Since CP3 is in the top 5, why not Deron Williams?

 

Either that, or he knows that he will rape Dwight with Yao when he makes it to the finals...

 

So, In a 7 game series between the two, you would take Yao over Dwight?


Of course you would, because being raped is not very fun, and Dwight would most certainly get raped, with a barrage of stylish hooks, spins and jumpers.

 

If he is healthy... well that's a big if... as big of an if as if Dwight had a jumpshot... It's not only the injury situation.. it's the fact that he puts up better stats individually than Yao... It's like comparing Kobe and LeBron... Kobe has fallen off a little bit in some ways.. and in that sense LeBron is better than Kobe right now.. it's the same way with Yao and Dwight.. Dwight has gotten better as each season has gone along... this past season Dwight avged more ppg than Yao.. pretty soon the disparity will be greater..

OK... let's say Dwight isn't a top 5 player... (even though he did finish in the top 5 in MVP voting last season)... he's still in the top 10.. I mean you can't really say a superstar like Dwight isn't in the top 10... Yao.. because of his injury-prone self can be left out of the top 10... when healthy... it's close I still take Dwight though by a small margin. And on that last part.. you could say that for anyone... if someone was as good as the best player... he would certainly be near or at the top.

 

Because CP3 led his team to 50 wins... CP3 has less talent around him... let's be honest here.. The Hornets are a lottery team without CP3... Deron Williams has more talent around him...

 

You way overrate Yao, and listening to a team employee, a former teammate, & his former coach is not that good of an argument. Howard + Lewis + Turkglu = NBA Finals. Yao + McGrady = 1st round exit. I'd also like to see these players he's defending against in the low post.

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I'd also like to add that, Yao is NOT the only one that Rips Dwight heart out. See Kendrick Perkins, Pau Gasol and Jason Maxiell for other examples.

All those guys can shut Dwight down with no help what so ever, under Single coverage for that matter.

Let's face it, If Yao and Dwight were placed in the 90s. Dwight would just be Dale Davis and Yao just be Rik Smits. Both of those guys look a lot more dominant than what they really are because they play in a weak ERA of centers. Just like in the 70s with Artis Gilmore and Nate Thurmond.

Fair enough...... In my opinion, They are both Top 10. Yao and Dwight are interchangeable and I'll just leave it at that. My mind/logic makes me want to take Yao over Dwight, simply because he is more reliable at the end of games than Dwight WILL EVER BE in his career. In my opinion, Dwight's offensive game is nearly maxed out. That's just me.

Because Chris Paul is better..... Either way, Chris Paul is usually #4 or #5 on those lists anyways. Deron Williams is a Top 10 player in my book, he usually gets overlooked because his stats are not as impressive as a Brandon Roy or a Carmelo Anthony.

 

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Because in the NBA you only play one team.

I'm sorry that my goal is winning championships. You keep worrying over beating one individual team. Like I said, thats working out great for the Bobcats with their ownership of the Lakers.

 

Thats desperate. Here I'll help you:

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That's far from my reasons, but Knote has his.

Dwight struggles against any center just as big as him and nearly as strong as him. See Jason Maxiell, Kendrick Perkins, Pau Gasol, Yao Ming and Rasheed Wallace. All those guys are capable of neutralizing Dwight Howard in single coverage.

Tell me who Yao struggles against? A fronting defense? Yeah, too bad they'll have to sacrifice Luis Scola or Carl Landry shooting open mid-range jumpers. Yao is considered way more of a threat than Dwight Howard will ever be as an offensive player as well. Dwight doesn't see half the double teams Yao gets. And if you want to compare something else, compare how Dwight did against the Lakers and how Yao did.

Yao did better.

 

You better pray to God you don't see my Yao squad in the finals, because we would pimp smack the hell out of you...