Tracy Mcgrady is the Key to:

when mac comes back not only will he make AB better he will also make landry, scola, lowry, hell even david anderson better! Tracy has elite talent and makes mostly good decisions. A player with mac's abillity (gimp or not) is a valuable asset that most teams lack. im willing to forgive and forget as long as he is making our team better!

the only thing i dont understand is if tracy says he can give somebody 30 right now, then how is there no time table for his return?

 

We should sign Allen Iverson. That will provide the rockets a scoring partner for t-mac who can create his own shot.

 

Wow, i dont think i even need to point out the many reasons why this would be a terrible idea for our team. but i will point out the one that this thread is about and that is the development of Aaron. Iverson would kill yet another year to getting AB to be a seasoned PG.

 

You can't be serious?? AI?? Ugh.

 

Its either Tmac is the key for a playoff run or is the key to help the Rockets obtain player/s who will be part of the core of this team for the future.

 

I've become desensitized to your hyperbolic posts. From your insulting signature that denounced all of our starters, to this gem, I'm usually pretty indifferent However, I'm bored right now, so I'll point out a few things:

First, you're likely basing your opinion on what you saw from McG last year. Surely you know that he wasn't at anything close to 100%, right? (you can't possibly be that obtuse, as DaDa is prone to say...and yes I'll stop calling you Shirley.). Any year prior to last, McG did draw double teams, particularly in the waning moments of quarters and for a large chunk of 4th quarters. Any player that can rise up for his shot at will, hit a decent (~42ish) percentage, and can couple that with pinpoint passes to teammates with either Roberto Duran-ish hands (yes Chuck, I'm talking about you) for layups or arm reaches shorter than Skeletor Willis (Yao, you know I love ya, but seriously, you have alligator arms of Terrel Owens proportions), will be run off the ball in crucial stretches.

Additionally, the poster child of talent wasted? Really? Is Roy Tarpley on your payroll? He's a hell of a client to have, don't get me wrong, but he almost single-handedly submarined the Dallas Mavs franchise pre-UDC (UberDorkCuban). He oft forgotten in the annals of history (except for records of 8 balls consumed in one sniffing), but ask anyone from the DFW area old enough to remember him: Tarpley had ALL the tools to dominate the nba. Its a damn shame the brotha couldn't leave the white girl alone (date one, marry one, my brotha...don't stuff one and your whole career up your nose).

Honorable mention goes to Len Bias. Same road as Tarpley, and probably more talented, but never even got on the parquet floor long enough to deserve winning this distinction.

 

t-mac is also nowhere near as efficient as those guys. he'll get you 30 pts on 7-24 shooting, while freezing the ball so noone else can find their rhythm.

 

I don't think T-Mac wasted his potential. He just had a shorter peak of talent than most others.

But it's true. Tracy McGrady will not regain his athleticism from his Toronto days. It's just not going to happen, and if he does start leaping like that, he will most likely re-injure himself again anyway.

 

he doesn't need to start leaping like his toronto days. he was all-nba just 2 years ago for god sakes. if he can start leaping like his toronto days, we're talking about a top 3 player, which is never going to happen.

we're just hoping he can return to all-star form, which is very possible.

 

He's going to be a role player after his career with the Rockets. Kinda like Jason Terry, Stackhouse, etc.

 

Absolutely. Getting Tmac of 2 years ago would be a great boost to this team this season. Aspiring for more would really be wishful thinking.

 

First, you are correct ... I do exaggerate ... but this is a forum, no?

Second, my old sig was considered by some very humorous but people have different tastes and I accept that.

Third, maybe I am *that* obtuse!

Fourth, yes I am basing my conclusions largely on last year. He was the oldest looking under 30 player in the league. A best case scenario is that he comes back and plays extremely well; however, I consider that to be very unlikely.

Fifth, I don't think he will draw doubles like he did earlier in his career because of a lack of an ability to drive. He was held in check even in his "prime" during the playoffs by Utah's great defenders Korver and Fisher.

Sixth, look at:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/mcgratr01.html
Even throwing out last year, he is in serious decline. McGrady was fantastically gifted ... too bad he didn't make the most of it both for Rockets fans and the fans of basketball in general.

Seventh (and final), you have a point with Tarpley and Bias. McGrady, however, showed that he could dominate the NBA game and somehow failed to follow up with any decent post-season results.

 

I suppose its understandable that people want to take all the demons of 1st rounds past and toss them into the pits of McGrady. People can be lazy, and would rather just blame one person for everything than look at all the dynamics of the situation. Still, it's just flat out lunacy to think McGrady stunted the growth of anything other than the loss column for the majority of his Rocket tenure.

Now, I do fully expect McG to come back in 07 form. 05 is a dream and anything prior is, well, tinmannish (is that a word? Tinny you've made it to verb form. That's a notch on the bed, or mark on the wall or, better yet, that's a punch in the eye of a heckling fan in portland for talkin about your daughter...even if your teammates didn't hear any of it...either way, it's memorable!).

As has been pointed out by others, the affected area is non-weight bearing. And yes, you're right that we'll just have to wait and see. However, I have heard no reason from McGrady nor Grover to believe he won't be at least as good as he was in 07. Though many will say that McG wouldn't say anything disparaging about his recovery during a contract year, I'd argue that they are giving McGrady's mental filter entirely too much credit. He's proven to me long ago that he is honest to a fault...or at least his perception of the situation. If something were going on, we'd know because he'd probably rent a billboard next to the Compaq Center announcing it (ok, maybe just a press conference or interview).

As far as moving McBillboard, I just don't think it'll happen. Aside from Amare and maybe...maybe Bosh, I don't see any pieces of McGrady's ilk being moved this year. I fear if we were to move him, we would get Francisian scraps for him (hey, Steve, you made it too! Though not nearly as cool as tinmannish. More like as cool as Timmy Breaux going from Fonde to NBA...interesting anecdote, cool factoid, but ultimately not worth remembering).

 

obviously his stats are going to be declining. but idk if youve noticed, but over the last 3 years or so of the "decline" we have been continually been surrounding him with better talent. Not only that but the numbers of yao have been increasing during that time, b/c Tmac knew that this was not his team, its Yao's team. Look, at the team we had starting when tmac first came over and averaged 26 ppg. Sura/Jackson/Tmac/juwan/yao. compared to what he had in his last full season where he averaged 22 ppg Alson/Tmac/Battier/Scola/Yao. and thats not including our good bench players: brooks, landry, b jackson. Also the year bonzi and mike harris made a splash. Obviously stats are going to go down when you are surrounded with alot of good talent, rather than being the only good player on the team (orlando).

 

eh...this thread is getting boring, too many facts and intelligent insight for a T-mac thread.

I'm waiting for Antisonic to chime in with some rant about how much he hates Mcgrady.

 

I understand what you're coming from. That's why we have Kyle Lowry. Ever notice that when Kyle and Aaron are on the court together, they are a tough to beat combo. With Brooks scoring ability and Kyle playmaking skills, they fit well together and that is why the Rockets organization wanted Kyle Lowry for a while now.

I also disagree with his ceiling is a bobby Jackson type player. I think he will be better than that. Maybe like a Ben Gorden. And I think Aaron Brooks is a much better decision maker than Luther Head. Luther Head was a horrible decision maker. He throws the ball away almost every possession. Its like after he was exposed in his first playoff series against the jazz, he just fell off and lost his confidence. I think Aaron is average on decision making. He is still young, plus Luther Head is a horrible decision maker.

 

Chauncey Billups.

 

"ball stopper" = new "low bball IQ"