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Would you trade Francis for Vince straight up?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by countingcrow, May 17, 2000.

  1. countingcrow

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    Now you know I couldn't just do the Kobe thing without testing the waters on Carter did you? This is a trade I would have to think long and hard about. Vince is an awesome specimen, but so is Francis. I can honestly say I would be happy with either player in a Rockets uniform so I can't say whether or not I would do this deal. What about you?


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  2. moestavern19

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    Carter is a good player But the Rockets dont need guards
    How about
    Bryce Drew , Kenny Thomas , and Cuttino Mobley for Tracy McGrady and Charles Oakley

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  3. sirhangover

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    stick with francis....he has a better all around game and attitude then those two primadonnas.....

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  4. DEANBCURTIS

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    NO! Carter is good but Franchise has a better all around game and if you compare both of their rookie stats Stevie has the advantage.

    FRANCIS
    pts reb ast stl
    18 5.3 6.6 1.5
    CARTER
    pts reb ast stl
    18.3 5.7 3.0 1.1

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  5. DaDakota

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    Yep,

    I would do the deal. Vince has as much skill as Francis and is a taller player.

    If you have 2 players of equal abilities, always take the taller one.

    DaDakota

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  6. heypartner

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    I don't agree with DaDakota...

    and if you have two posters of equal abilities, you should always pick the one with more posts.
     
  7. The Cat

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    Star point guard's are harder to find than star guards or forwards. Francis can do so many things- I really think he is a special player. Also, Carter is very laid back on defense. Because of Francis' potential, I would definitely prefer him. However, I can't say the same as for Kobe. Not only am I one of the few people that believes Kobe is better than Vince, I believe he is MUCH better. He is an all around player. He can shoot the ball much better than Vince, he is quicker, he has more moves off the dribble, and also is an outstanding defender. If Kobe played for anyone else in the league, I think he'd lead the league in scoring. He also has the burning desire to win and improve. I'm sorry if I sound like Bob Costas when he sucks up to Kobe- but I really believe that some of what he says is true. Kobe is one of those rare players that only comes around so often. While it would be a close call, I would probably trade Francis for him.

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  8. Smokey

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    Yes

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  9. SmeggySmeg

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    If Carter is laid back on Defense what is Francis.......................

    Sitting down Sleeping

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  10. The Cat

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    Believe it or not, I have been impressed with Steve's defense at times. When he gives 100%, he is an excellent defender. When Carter gives a 100%, I still don't think he is that good of a defender. Defensively to me he just isn't the player Kobe is, and I also think Francis has more potential to grow out of defensive problems than Vince.

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  11. SmeggySmeg

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    NOT

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  12. Will

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    Ouch! That post from HP is one of the most excellent ironic backhands I've ever seen. An extra 50 points for scoring it on one of the sharpest guys on the board. Just for that, DD is going to diagram that nasty crossover move where Mobley's eyeballs intersect at a perpendicular angle and fake out his nose.
     
  13. Dr of Dunk

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    That's not a crossover move, that's his Moochie Norris impersonation.

    Mooooooooooch!

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  14. Clutch

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    HP's post -- just read it.... hilarious!

    With that said... I'd pick Carter. But the fact we're discussing and debating whether we would trade a single player of ours for an NBA centerpiece like Carter is a pretty damn good thing, don't you think?

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  15. Mango

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    HP goes to Enron with the BBS Bosses.

    The Admins love his posts.

    So, is HP an Admin in training?

    Mango

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  16. Nietzsche

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    That assumes HP actually exists.
     
  17. Mango

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    "There are no facts, only interpretations."
    Nietzsche

    Mango

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    nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

    Francis is the future of the rockets dont touch him.

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  19. Nietzsche

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    "There are no mangoes, only mutant peaches."
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    HP is a particular instance of the transcendent form, "admin."
    the admins exist in the perfect eternal realm of being. they reveal themselves through brilliant particulars such as HP.

    then again, i am yet to conceive this eternal realm, so what do i know.

    (had to match nietzsche)

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