I'm sorry if this is an inappropriate thread - but it's been driving me bonkers reading about "let's just assign [player X] to the DLeague for this season" So I thought I'd put out a basic clarification so people can grasp it! (1) To assign a player to the D-League DOES NOT free up a roster spot. A team may have 15 rostered players, and any player assigned to the D-League by an NBA club MUST be a part of that teams 15 man roster. So, to bring this back to reality, we have 14 contracted players (McGrady, Ming, Battier, Ariza, Cook, Scola, Landry, Hayes, Barry, Lowry, Brooks, Dorsey, White + Anderson) If we were to sign both Taylor and Budinger, we would have 16 contracted players. That is too many - a team may only have 15 - and assigning one to the D-League would STILL leave us with 16 players. (2) The only way to hold a players rights and have them play professional basketball is to send them overseas to play for pay. We are currently doing that with Eliyahu, Newley, Leunen, Llull, Weiss (?) and Segei Lishouk [don't hold your breath on the last 2 - they've got nothing]. Implications? The only way for BOTH Budinger and Taylor to end up on our roster is for someone to get waived (White has a non-guaranteed contract) OR for a trade to go down where we send more players than we receive. Hope that helps.
Yes, you're wrong. He's on the roster, but he's likely spending the entire season on the injured list.
No injured list anymore! Used to be 12 spots + 3 IR spots - but because every team abused the IR (pinky strain) the NBA just said "15 roster spots". I might be wrong, but I believe only 12 can participate in any given game? (ie - be active before the game)
Yes, you're right... different name, same purpose. "Inactive List" is what it's called now, right? Also, I think you're right about the "only 12 participants" rule, but I'd have to check.
Yeah - same diff! Might as well say "IR" - although I think a player had to stay a week on the injured reserve minimum before they could be activated again? I'm pretty sure now it's just a game day decision.
http://www.nba.com/analysis/00421026.html Here's the roster regulations from NBA.com. Teams are limited to twelve active players, and a minimum of eight active players. So there it is, straight from Stern's mouth. Or, at least, straight from the mouths of the rules committee...
the cavs did it with darnell jackson a few games and it actually helped him out as he had 20 point high rebound games, so I think it's easy when you do it for a few games.
Thanks! Interesting to see what the rule was with the IR! Here's the new rules regarding the "Inactive List" I didn't know teams HAD to have 13 players - and that the NBA gets fined if there is less than 14 per team on average! I found this interesting reading about the D-League: I didn't realize it could only be 1st and 2nd year players assigned! Shows how handy it is for the Rockets to be managing and coaching the Vipers - they can completely tailor the program to suit their assigned players - get the right systems in place etc! All quotes sourced from Larry Coon: http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#Q64
This is what I don't understand: I thought that players can still play in the D-league after being drafted by a team but not signed to a contract - he just cannot be "assigned" by the NBA team to a D-League team, but rather, have to enter via the D-league draft. If that is correct, then that is no problems as I see it. The NBA team should just ask the player to enter the D-league draft, then draft him when it's their turn. Or, if the player is drafted earlier by another team, and the NBA team really wants that player playing for their D-league team, then they can ask their D-league team to trade for him. That's all legal and good, right? Otherwise, does it mean if an NBA team drafted you and then decided you are not worth a contract (say you showed you weren't good enough), then that prohibits you from ever playing in the D-league just because some NBA team owns your rights? Thanks for any clarifications.
The D-League works completely independent of the NBA in terms of player personnel. There are a lot of way's to acquire talent, but there are several rules in place for the purpose of "competitive balance" within the D-League. Let me clarify player rights first. No player in the D-League...(with the exception of NBA assignee's e.g. Joey Dorsey last season) has their rights controlled by an NBA team. Any player who has signed a D-League contract can be signed to an NBA contract BY ANY NBA TEAM no matter who the affiliates are. For example our affiliates last season were Houston and New Orleans. Jawad Williams was on our roster... he signed a contract at the end of the season with Cleveland. Now as for acquiring of talent here is how the Rockets can have the benefit of acquiring D-league players for potentially calling them up later in the season. A player who is on an NBA training camp roster and then waived, if that player signs a D-League Standard Player Contract he will be assigned to his affiliate club. For example... Will Conroy who was on Houston's summer league roster, should he be invited to training camp, and then be waived, he would come to Rio Grande Valley. Other than that players are open game once they go into the draft and it all depends ono your position. You have to also remember that players may get lucrative offers to play over seas, so the player may or may not be taking a risk by playing in the D-League. As far as the question about not being offered a contract here is the rule I found in the NBA CBA "(d) If a player is drafted by a Team in either an Initial or Subsequent Draft and that Team does not make a Required Tender to such player, the player will become a Rookie Free Agent on the July 16 following such Draft (for a First Round Pick) or on the September 6 following such Draft (for a Second Round Pick)." So if a player doesn't recieve a tender offer he becomes a free agent. This player can then sign a contract with the NBA Development League. Remember while you can only have 15 guaranteed contracts, you can sign players for training camp to "Non Guaranteed- Training Camp Contracts" Which the NBA allows you to do. These guys could also end up with the Vipers as I mentioned earlier if they get waived. (The Spurs waived second round pick Malik Hairston but he ended up with Austin Toros) but always remember just because a player is on your D-League roster... you do not own that players rights unless he is an assignee (which is a first or second year NBA player who has a contract) I hope this helps guys..
Cool! Thanks for that. I am still a little confused: With the above quote - if the NBA team does not tender an offer to a drafted player by a certain date they lose his rights? I thought once you drafted a player, you retain his rights unless you sign him to a contract and waived him or he doesn't play pro-ball for a year. D-league is considered pro-ball, right? Of course, I agree that overseas clubs may pay more and that is a greater motivation. Thanks again.
Yes he does. He is one of the 15 players on the Rockets roster. While injured, he will never be one of the 12 active on game night, but, as stated in an earlier post, unless he is waived he will count as one of the 15 all year.
Why don't you source your information and provide a link to it? Because if you went and looked it up I think you'd discover (as pointed out by aristophenes34) that he DOES in fact count towards a roster spot. Unbelievable! I make a post to clarify D-League assignations, and you come along and make a counter claim [which is completely wrong] without any evidence at all. It's that kind of post which gives people a hard time! What I'm trying to do is help people understand how things work - I don't know it all, so I only put forth information that I DO know - but if you don't know what's going on then PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don't make statements as if you do!! I'm sorry - I don't mean to give you a hard time - we're all Rockets fans! Just please don't bust me if I'm not wrong
Here's the story on draft rights: Point 2 of the original post is the executive summary: BUT - if you draft a player, then for them to be involved in professional basketball in the USA, then they need to sign for your team, or their rights renounced. So we drafted Newley, sent him to play professionally in Europe, and we retain his rights. We drafted Llull this season, he is currently in Europe, if he wants to play pro-ball in America, it's with the Houston Rockets unless we trade or renounce his rights. But let's assume a player drafted in the second round is SO awful that a team doesn't want to organise for them to play overseas, they simple let their rights lapse (ie - goes past Sept 6) OR they renounce the player (prior to Sept 6) - and then that player is free to sign wherever they please. Most second rounders whose rights lapse end up playing D-League - but NOBODY holds their rights. They are free to sign with whomever they should choose. So, to sum up - D-League IS pro ball, but it's in the USA, so you can't play there and still have a club hold your rights unless you are one of the 2 players a club assigns to their D-League feeder club(s). ok - this whole thing is kinda confusing...
