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11-year old faces charges of sexual assault

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by BetterThanEver, Aug 2, 2009.

  1. Northside Storm

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    I don't get this fixation with sex.

    How many bullies end up going to jail for physical assault? None. And we never think they should be put on lists and segregated from the rest of society. This is despite the fact that bullying has lead to suicides...and studies have demonstrated that those who bully tend to embrace more impulsive and criminal acts in the future.

    Integrate sex into the question and suddenly people are a lot more wary and cautious. I guess it speaks to how repressed we are about the subject in North American society.
     
  2. right1

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    11 years old? 6th grade? I can tell you as a 6th grader, all my friends and I were concerned about kissing 6th grade girls, possibly 7th grade girls. Not once did fondling a 1st grader ever enter the equation. Throw the book at him!

    Truthfully, he should get some counseling to determine whether or not he has been inappropriately touched by an adult in the same manner, which could have led to this incident.
     
  3. across110thstreet

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    the OP said they were playing doctor, not the article itself.

    you have a fifth or sixth grader taking advantage of a kindergardener. that is not normal sexual experimentation.

    I would think that this kid is going to be a deviant if he keeps this type of behavior up.

    kudos for taking it seriously enough.
     
  4. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    Precisely. We don't even know the level of damage here.

    This is bad but jail is not the solution. In this case a tiny bit of fear and lots and lots of education is needed. If that education comes in the form of 3 months of detention while listening to someone discuss how wrong it is that would be perfect.

    An 11 year old is aware of sex but unaware of the reprucussons of their actions. To him, this is just like stealing keys and driving a car. They know it is bad and want to do it. They just don't know that these things fall into different categories and don't know the different reprucussions of each action.
     
  5. Rocket River

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    Would it be different if it were two boys?

    Rocket River
     
  6. Refman

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    Bingo. Jail is not the answer here, but this is a warning sign that if no action is taken, this kid could end up being an abuser.

    When you ignore the warning signs, people later become victims needlessly.
     
  7. Oski2005

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    If you are a 6th grader and don't know it's wrong to stick your hands down the pants of a 1st grader, your potential for not being a some kind of sexual assaulter is pretty low.
     
  8. thacabbage

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    Hell yeah! I know I personally was regularly getting handjobs by the time I started 1st grade.
     
  9. thacabbage

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    I'm glad common sense finally kicked in on page 2. Reading through some of those comments on page 1 of this thread made me wonder if I was in some sort of alternate reality. I don't know how anyone could possibly argue that sexual experimentation upon a kindergardener by a freaking 6th grader isn't serious cause for concern, at the very least.
     
  10. Refman

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    Anybody that has kids or is around kids regularly would know that what the 6th grader did is aberrant behavior.
     
  11. London'sBurning

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    Shouldn't register him as a sex offender. Chances are he's probably been molested or worse. They should just transfer him to a school that isn't from Pre-K to 8th grade and send him to a regular middle school with some anonymity to get a fresh start. At most he should get probation and be monitored until his therapist/counselor feels like his head is screwed on straight and even then do check ups every 6 months or so.
     
  12. Refman

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    Because the method of transferring the person had worked so well for the Catholic Church.

    This kid needs some serious therapy and a complete psychological evaluation to determine how likely he is to do this kind of thing to younger kids habitually.

    I doubt this is the first time he did it...it is the first time he got caught.
     
  13. thacabbage

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    I don't have kids nor am I ever around kids (in fact, I really hate kids), but I think anyone who has actually been a 6th grader themselves should pretty easily realize that sticking your hands down a 6 year old pants isn't within the realm of acceptable social behavior.
     
  14. London'sBurning

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    Eh I said he needed therapy as well. Outside of homeschooling him, the next best option then would be sending him to a middle school furthest away from any elementary schools nearby. And also put him on probation.
     
  15. logicx

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    Something is wrong with this kid and what he thinks is ok and I'd start by looking at his parents. I was taught at a young age by my parents that you shouldn't get touched here, and you don't touch other people like that, it's not right. So, for this kid, who as mentioned is as that age where he becomes interested in girls...this isn't right. I'm not saying put him in the sex offender database and put him in jail, I'm just sayin they need to look at this guys situation at home or something. A 6 year old girl? Seriously. At that age, I remember liking older girls or girls my age, not 6 year olds. Something's wrong here.
     
  16. logicx

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    Same here.

    Right, right, right. This kid needs to be evaluated by a professional, his family situation at home does, and he needs some routine exams. I know that may sound harsh to some people, but something isn't right with this kid.
     
  17. meh

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    Actually, how many bullies get punished, period? Not even going to jail, but simply receive punishment from school? Basically none. Schools don't even care about that, and I don't know any school where bullying isn't simply accepted behavior. Even if it does scars many children for life.

    But indeed, once sex or race comes into play, and things suddenly becomes different.
     
  18. Refman

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    Probably for the same reason that rape is a more serious crime than other types of assault.

    A sexual assault, by its very nature, is an assault on the most personal and private part of a woman's (or girl's) anatomy. Once somebody violates that space, the wounds are more emotional than physical. The wounds do not heal nearly as easily.

    If you are not disturbed by the sexual fondling of a 6 year old, that is disturbing in and of itself.
     
  19. meh

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    So getting beat up or getting tricks played on you constantly by bullies DON'T leave deep emotional scars? Yeah, I'm sure those outcast kids who are afraid to go to school are REALLLY healthy emotionally.

    And since when is bullying just beating people up? If you acually paid attentions to your surroundings in school, you'd see it doesn't take physical beating to destroy a kid's psyche.

    Thank you for putting words in my mouth.
     
  20. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    So are you admitting that you have sexually fondled a 6 year old when you were 11?
     

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