Astros...Buyers or Sellers?

Very true. Scott has been the only one to amount to something. Sarfate is injured, Albers is injured or in the Minors, Patton has had his injury problems as well, but is in AAA ball. Who else was in it? Costanzo, he was a throw in, nothing worthy.

And dont get me wrong, I have enjoyed watching Tejada as well. But from the bolded part, I could go different ways with that. Say you kept Scott and Co. and didnt make the trade. Ok so you got Scott in RF, Pence was going to be called up, and he was playing or has experience in CF. You then eliminate the need to trade Lidge and Bruntlett for Bourn and Geary. Then, who knows? Maybe Valverde isnt here then. It may, though no guarentee, may have prevented some other trades, we'll never know. But I also agree, we may still be stuck with Burke at 2B, Bruntlett at SS, and whoever else was here.

But I only think you made that trade for Tejada if you feel your going to contend or if you're a piece away. But these are all what if's that we'll never have answers to. Maybe failure is a bit strong, I agree, but we can only wonder.

I'll just give Ed and the scouting department their time and see what happens. Theyve been ok on moves. However, the Houston Phillies is gonna have to end. (ala what Kubiak does, bring players over from his past tenture/team.) We need to build our own identity.

 

I would definitely agree with you on this, except Lidge was traded a month before we got Miguel.

 

Hope to compete with Bud Norris. Continue improved drafting to improve the minor league system, rather than trade for even more prospects that will most likely be bench players at best.

 

Quit posting and wasting everyones time.

 

I'll quit posting when they stop giving up 8 to 9 runs every other inning

 

they have a direction - take your fingers out of your ears, stop stomping your feet and quit wailing, "nahnahnahdraytischeapnahnahnah..."

there are a team stuck between stations: the biggio/bagwell era is over; the.... whoever-is-next era has not yet begun. in the meantime, they're going to try, given their limited personnel resources, to field a major league team capable of contending in a mostly mediocre league.

and they've done that, by and large. they were in the race for the division the final week of the 2006 and 2008 seasons; and they're in contention as of the 2009 trade deadline. additionally, you're getting to watch arguably the two greatest astros in history finish out their careers. honestly, what more can you ask, given the circumstances?

they're not going to mortgage any valuable part of their future and they're not going to dump players and ask fans to support a team of nobodies, never weres and AAAA all-stars.

 

Oh, I dont remember exact dates, but we can only wonder if, though its over with, the past. Bourn looks like he could be decent to say the least and make it look not so lopsided.

 

I just have a hard time believing that Garland or Davis (both have 5-10 records) would be any more help than Norris or Bazardo. I just don't think it would be worth giving up ANYTHING of value for either of them, especially with their contracts. Plus chances are the D-Backs wanted too much. It takes two to tango, and there was probably a reason neither of these guys got shipped out.

Would I give up prospects for Cliff Lee/Roy Halladay/Jake Peavy? Absolutely. But not for these guys.

 

Sorry, not specific enough. Precisely what from the POS we call a farm system would the D-backs have accepted for Davis or Garland? Especially if, you'll recall, they stated publicly that Davis wasn't available?

He's so shortsighted, the Astros have one of the best records in both leagues during his tenure. Gotcha. And btw, it's the Astros' "purses" that matter, not McLane's. He didn't get wealthy enough to purchase a MLB franchise by doing stupid things like sinking personal funds into business investments. That would be, as you like to say, shortsighted.

 

Thats the problem. They dont know when to buy or sell. When they should sell, they buy, when they buy they should sell. One could argue, this is Pence's team, not in that sense though. In the sense that he is the future along with Norris and Castro,etc. (Lyles and Seaton and others seem too far off from the big leagues,IMO)

 

I feel you! Stating it like this, I'm in full agreement.

It is frustrating. It sucks having my favorite team suck.

But I for one won't respond by pretending an all-out firesale would fix everything, then call the best owner in the team's history "shortsighted". Nor will I moan and whine about how nothing was done without presenting a concrete, legitimate move that could have been made.

In other words, I won't whine.

But I'm with you on the other part: it sucks that they suck! I want them to destroy the rest of league, too! 98 was a ton of fun, at least until October.

 

It sucks that they were 1 game out last week, now every team in the central has gotten better, except the pirates

 

Take this for what its worth but according to Ken Rosenthal"

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9875596/MLB-trade-deadline-buzz:-Friday's-edition

And I think they could of given up not scrubs, but not talented prospects to get Davis or Garland. I mean, after all, we didnt give up a whole bunch for Valverde. Burke, who isnt even there anymore, Qualls, who wasnt as good back then as he is now, and Juan Guttierez who I suppose you could say has been decent. But as one poster mentioned aboved, it probably wouldnt be worth it [and I wouldnt do it] because you probably could get the same out of Norris and/or Bazardo and Moehler.

 

garland would have cost a high draft pick to sign.

and you're naive. it doesn't take 1-2 years to rebuild - it takes YEARS to rebuild. years! the astros had a building block of two future hall of famers and it still took them six years to make the playoffs with both bagwell and biggio on their major league roster.

 

And whats the point of rebuilding now if they're just gonna waste Berkman and Oswalt?