Jon Stewart owns Bill Cristol talking about Healthcare

I have a couple of questions on health care.

1) In the cases where some one is on the feeding tube in a coma with 0.001% chance of recovery while being on the government health care, who decides when to pull the plug.

What about 0.01%, 0.1%, 1%, and 10%?

2) For doctors determining what kind of a procedures a person should get, what will keep them from loading up on the more expensive ones? I don't think they're shying away too much from that today, but they at least have to fight the insurance companies a little when it comes to billing. If we think government can decide treatment, what parameters would have to be reached?

3) If we have a government health care, can the government dictate certain amount of health standards. In Japan, there apparently is a waist size minimum, should we adopt something like that here? I'm coming from the view that a government health care is a privilege and not a right (kind of like driving).

 

Wow, Bill Cristol just basically said that the best health in America is run by the gov't!!!!!

 

That decision rightfully belongs to the attending physician.

Do not offer the proceedures unless prior conditions are met. Once these conditions are documented, it would be worthwhile to invest in more expensive proceedure if a diagnosis/treatment is no closer to being decided than before.

Unfortunately, this is highly unlikely.

 

Would a family have the CHOICE to change physicians should they disagree with one's decision? What if it's not a coma but cancer treatment with low likelyhood of success but very high cost?

I'm still not sure how those guidelines are met, I'm talking about right now where I would check the doctors when I visit on things they "have to have" such as multiple X - Rays, multiple blood samples, visits, checkups etc.

That's what I thought, which is some what ok. I suggested we have different tiers/pools aid for people based on at risk behaviors (kind of like how insurance charge people different rates based on risk indicators) but I can see how some wont like it.

 

While there should be a choice in the beginning, unless the attending shows gross negligence, there should be no involuntary patient exchange.

Essentially those are some of the most important tests you can have at first. Blood tests will show various signs and symptoms of a multitude of diseases and disorders. If there are virtually no symptoms, then there is no reason to progress further with an expensive treatment. If there is no improvement, then there is reason to apply more expensive proceedures.

I think it is a great idea myself, but it violates the mission statement of the insuring party the United States.

 

Thankfully, not me. 0.001 percent? 1 in 100,000? I hate to say it, but I think hospitals have taken babies off of life support, with a court order, with odds better than that.

Without government health care I imagine it's a claims adjuster; and what's worse is he actually has to turn a profit.

 

Bingo.

For those of you who fear Big Government making these life-or-death decisions, remember: the ones making the decisions now have to turn a profit or lose their job. And providing care is always less profitable than not.

 

The Daily Show/Colbert makes up a duo that is held in such high regard by white people that to criticize it would be the equivalent of setting the pope on fire in Italy in 1822. It just isn’t done, in fact it isn’t even considered!

White people love to make fun of politics, especially right wing politics. It’s a pretty easy target and makes for some decent humor, but white people are actually starting to believe that these two shows are becoming legitimate news sources.

“Oh, I don’t watch the news,” they will say. “I watch the Daily Show and the Colbert Report. You know, studies show that viewers of those shows are more educated than people who watch Fox News or CNN.”

White women all consider John Stewart to be the most perfect man on the planet. This is not a debate, it is law.

The Daily Show also features guests like John McCain, writers, policy analysts, and actors. It is comforting for white people to see boring celebrities get interviewed in a funny fashion. It fills their need to do something productive, but also not work that hard at it.

Take note that Tuesday through Friday during the working week, you can break ALL awkward silences with white people by saying “did you see the Daily Show/Colbert Report last night?” At which point they will start talking until it’s time for you to move on to more interesting activities.

 

Just so sad to have such racist comments in this day and time.

 

He is quoting a parody site...

http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/01/28/35-the-daily-showcolbert-report/

 

I dont get where bill got 'owned.'

 

Statement A: The government can't provide good health care.

Statement B: Government-run health care is the best.

 

Yep, followed by,

Conclusion: Therefore, government should not provide good health care to its citizenry. (Paid for by CIGNA Health.)

 

I really do not get why people are so scared in the US about this government health care. We sort of have it in the Netherlands and it works great. my gues is people are just scared of what they do not know (and some are negative about anything Obama wants/does)

 

Catch up man!!

 

i believe this has been pointed out to you numerous times, but not sourcing the material you take from someone else is a big no-no on this site.

 

When you copy and paste, the rules of this forum state that you must provide a link. Please follow the rules.

 

By the way, it is evident that you do not have anything to say about the substance of this video. I suspect that the omission is because you cannot answer the points made. So, instead of trying to answer the points made, you try to deflect by not criticizing TDS, instead posting a strawman about how TDS can't be criticized.

If you have criticism for the clip, please post it. I don't have any problem with people who criticize TDS, it is a comedy show on a comedy channel. However, when you can't even answer the points made by a frickin comedian, it shows a lot about the veracity of your ideology.

 

55 minutes after Gloogrux' post, you either:

a) chose to post the exact same thing.

b) didn't bother reading through the thread prior to posting your scolding.

Both aren't held in high regard here, either.