says the coward who ran with his tail between his legs after being turned away from a public establishment and why do you hate the troops? is it because where he originally migrated from?
Please, feel free to elaborate. Drake was a much better place to be at when they were profiling on Saturday nights and I wish a few places like Bond would do the same. Houston in general has people that don't know how to dance, party and look good at the same time so the few clubs that play good house and attract good looking women should be extremely selective in my opinion.
It wasn't there decision to stop. Newer places opened up on Washington and they no longer were the hot spot. There is a lot of competition in that area so they had no other choice. The same thing happened to Pandora and Blue Label and will likely happen to Eight, Reign, & Nox at some time.
I've been to enough clubs all around the country, outside the country even, of all types and genres. Of different ethnicities, languages, age groups, different music, class distinctions. I think its all overrated validation. I think thadeus mentioned it best --> I'm no party person but I accept these places for what it is - dark, loud, pretentious, sweaty meat markets where people have bad alcohol breath, puke all over the floor, bump into each other in sardine can packed floors with people who seemed a little too well practiced in their dance moves and wonder where they find the time for it, and people get in fights over trivial stuff. Usually over women, women who are average but in the club have a higher sense of self importance. Basically hot young available ass hits up these places. Men love hot young available ass, so its too irresistible to not check out. And it all seems to bring out the stupid out in everyone. I dont really knock clubs since I actively participated. Just that its all unsustainable and becomes a headache quick. Its maximum effectiveness is up to age 23.
Good for you. Plenty sensible alternatives to clubs. The positives is its simply something to do outside the house. Feeling good dressing up and looking dapper, being a superficial slut, being "hit on", knowingly being a douche and enjoying it. But its too much sugar for a dime. A good time shouldnt have to involve pretense and over-preparation. I actually came in to defend clubbing a little but I've maybe seen the light lol A friend of mine is a bouncer at an upscale club. Or "lounge". They're contracted not true employees of the club, so they're not part of its core fabric. But they've had promoters come in and tell them PURPOSELY to make lines outside the door even if the place is 10% capacity to "enhance image". And that place has the same number of fights as any other lower rung club. Upscale and class is all image and in their head. Nothing about club atmosphere is ever conducive to having real class. Its beer, barfing, and brawling no matter what.
A. These officers were working an extra job, they were not on duty, and the whole purpose of them being there is to be a police presence, and arrest anyone who has broken the law. Discriminating against someone based on his/her race is not a crime. Depending on the circumstances, it is a civil rights violation. The officer was not lying when he said he couldn't do anything. B. You're only getting one side of the story here. How many of the people who have been tased come out on the other end saying, "You know what? I bet my behavior caused that policeman/woman to feel threatened and I can understand why they tased me."? Don't get me wrong, I believe that there are police officers out there that abuse their authority, but bashing cops based on an account given by someone who was obviously upset, and who had presumably been drinking (they had been out to other places earlier according to the article) is just ignorant.
Originally Posted by Red Chocolate This, and it's not close. The civil rights movement was won was with the dollar. I have zero problem with what this club did, they are a private business and can do whatever they want. If people don't like it, that business will shut down or change its policies. Capitalism at its finest. I got choked by a bouncer from behind and dragged out of that big place with the patio close to Bronx Bar (forgot its name, but its one of the furthest away from Morningside), for doing absolutely nothing. I never came back and my friends never did either. The situation with the cops doesn't surprise me either, as these guys often get kickbacks and are usually jackbooted thugs to begin with. They WILL tase you just for exercising your freedom of speech. I live in Vegas and got tired of the club scene very quickly. If you're on some kind of drug (E, coke), clubs can be fun and relatively cheap, but drinking is expensive and it's basically impossible to talk to anyone. BUT, if ur freedom of speech offends some1 its a type of crimminal offense... Class C offense... Disorderly Conduct...
Geez, you naysayers must be really young and/or sheltered. The only part I agree with is taking your money elsewhere ...but many people are indifferent on this situation (as highlighted in this thread) so a business can still attract many customers that don't care. Nobody cares until it affects YOU ...then you'll care. Are you principaled enough to care if it doesn't affect YOU? What we've learned in history is that if you keep ignoring the mistreatment of people, someday it WILL affect you. At what point do you start caring? How long is too long to keep ignoring it before you stand up? Or do you simply take a strong stance and oppose it all the time? Your choice.
It's affected me. I was denied entrance at an AA club downtown. I simply went somewhere else - I didn't cry like a baby about it.
Again, with the "cry[ing] like a baby." Your sensitivities are odd, to say the least. (U.F.Opossums = terrifying beyond belief, practices of overt discrimination = no biggie.) So, what, Rosa Parks should have just "man[ned] up, brah," and taken a cab?
I am not saying that I agree with the Bronx Bar practices, but this is easily distinguishable from Rosa Parks. Rosa Parks was riding a city bus. In short, it was an arm of government that was engaged in overt racism. Bronx Bar is not owned by the government. As time goes by, these practices will be even less accepted than they are today. When that happens, places like Bronx Bar will either have to adapt or go the way of the dinosaur.
So, if I accept your distinction between government/private enterprise, does that mean that one should've supported Woolworth's, and other private entities that upheld segregation? Most lunch counters were not government-owned. If not for the actions of such protesters, segregation would have continued for many years in the South, possibly up to today. Don't sell yourself short; clearly I think you too can be a freedom fighter, in the eyes of many (as long as there isn't any woodlands marching). (It's not "crying like a baby" to report acts of racism. If anything, calling for press attention to injustice is the initial step in organizing boycotts, so that others are informed enough to 'vote with their wallets.')
That isn't what I was saying and you should have known that. You made the comparison to Rosa Parks. I was merely showing you that it isn't analogous. You, naturally, overreact and allude that I am ok with segregation. I flat out stated that I disagree with the actions of Bronx Bar. Frankly, I don't really give a damn what race the drunk staggering out of that place is. I was merely making the point that you cannot treat government segregation the same as private segregation. You must deal with them differently, with the object of the same result.
who cired like a baby? how dare you say that about our troops.. you're not even a fraction of a man he is
I'm not taking up for bigtexxx's position on this, but let's not turn this into a "you don't respect our troops" discussion. Commenting on the way that the guy perceived the situation at Bronx Bar takes nothing away from the respect and appreciation I'm sure that we all feel for the sacrifices that he and all of the other troops have made for us.
this neocon chicken hawk has brought up anti-war comments as "you don't respect our troops" if you don't agree with what the soldiers perception fine, but don't say he's like a crying coward and tell him to "man up".. soldier or not, how does complaining about being discriminated or prejudiced not manning up? if you are discrimited or prejudiced and don't do nothing about it then you're the one who needs to "man up"..
yeah I don't fall for his silly trolling techniques. I strike a defensive nerve with him when I ambush him with facts, and all he can do is try to change the subject or sling insults. I can see right through him
You're the reason racist businesses exist. Because they know they can treat you like crap and you'll simply accept it. If everyone were like you, you'd still have all sorts of "No Blacks Allowed" businesses all over the south and have widespread institutional racism, with kids growing up thinking that racism is OK and even encouraged. People who tolerate basic discrimination are pretty weak human beings. People who legitimize it are just pathetic.
