Yao fans arent necessarily Mac haters but that is the case a lot.. all the chinese fans want yao to shine and many think (stupidly) that t-mac is standing in his way... but either way.. if yao fans arent mcgrady haters, we do have yao enthusiasts and t-mac enthusiasts... and u cant be enthusiastic about both, so there still is merit to what he was saying.. for the record im sick and tired of both yao and t-mac.. god damn players made of glass - they play slow and steady yet are injured as though they play as aggressively as an iverson or wade.. yao isnt made for nba basketball and t-mac is cashed
While both teams were offensively challenged, Iverson's team did have a great coach, a great defense, and big men production (Mutombo, tyronne Hill, Matt Geiger off the bench). They also had solid wing defenders in Eric Snow, Aaron McKie, George Lynch, Raja Bell, and Kevin Ollie. http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/PHI/2001.html A.I. also shot an average of 25.5 field goal attempts, he shot 42% for the season. His shooting % went down to 39 % in the playoffs. He shot 32 % from 3 point land on 4 attempts per game...but that went up to 34% on 6 attempts per game(still not good). He also averaged 4 assists per game, but that came with 3 turnovers per game as well. The BIG difference between the teams were rebounding and having a great shot blocker...Mutombo averaged 12 rpg, Tyronne Hill averaged 9 rpg, and George Lynch averaged 7 rpg Who did Tmac have to rebound for him in the front court?? Nobody better than him, the SHOOTING GUARD who was pretty much tied for LEADING THE TEAM in REBOUNDING with 7.5 rpg!! (Bo Outlaw, a 6'9 210 lbs power forward, averaged 7.7 rpg) Who did Tmac have to block shots for him in the front court? Nobody better than him, the SHOOTING GUARD who was pretty much tied for LEADING THE TEAM in SHOT BLOCKING with 1.5 bpg! (Outlaw averaged 1.7 bpg) http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/ORL/2001.html Yet, he was able to lead this team of perimeter player with NO INSIDE PRESENCE, and he actually win a playoff game against a # 2 seed Hornets team and he's criticized?? That year, Tmac averaged 26.8 on 46% shooting from the field on 22 attempts per game. His shooting did drop to 41% in the playoffs, but he did average 9.5 free throws per game, and shot 81% for the series from there. He also averaged 3 free throw attempts more per game than A.I. He also shot 35% from 3 (not much better than A.I), but he only shot 2 per game. His % went down to 20 in the playoffs, but he only took 2.5 per game. Tmac and AI averaged the same amount of assists, but Tmac averaged one less turnover per game than AI. AI's assists went from 4.6 to 6.1 in the playoffs, but Tmac's went from 4.6 up to 8.3 Both of them scored A LOT of points per game 33 for AI, 34 for Tmac, BUT AI had guys who could rebound, block shots, and play perimeter defense. Tmac had shooters, but only Bo Outlaw, who was 6'8 210 lbs to help him rebound and block shots. You can't win when your shooting guard leads your team in the categories that big men are supposed to take care of... Neither had scoring/creating help, but AI had guys who did the intangibles. Tmac didn't.
We all need to realize that T-Mac is a Houston Rocket, and therefore we need to support him. Fans are here to support their team, not bash the players on them, no matter what the situation. We can't control what the Rockets decide to do, so all we can do is respect their decision and support them all along the way. A team with nothing but supportive fans who scream at every game is going to be a tough team to beat, especially at home. So, just trust that we make the right decision, and support it.
sorry I dont want to intervene. It's a ego clash obviously. It is really annoying to post so much sometimes. I know you give a lot of stuff to talk about but there is going to be guys to call you out. I think Dr. of Dunk just wanted to say yeah you should be more precise about your opinion once and for all and better not post so much by posts. I just happen to understand that he gave you that for advice, buddy. Don't be emotional. We are cool!
I explained in my last post...Deke gave you 12 rebounds per game and 2.5 blocks per game (13.7 rpg and 3 bpg in the playoffs along with 13. 9 ppg) Tyronne Hill averaged 9 rpg and George Lynch averaged 7 rpg. Those 3 guys alone averaged more rebounds per game in the regular season than Orlando's top 5 rebounders (with Tmac averaging 7.5 rgp being 2nd on the team as a shooting guard). Deke almost Averaged more blocks per game than the leading 2 shot blockers of Orlando by himself. They also had very good perimeter defenders in Raja Bell, George Lynch Aaron McKie, Eric Snow, and Kevin Ollie Tmac had Darrell Armstrong who was pretty good defender and Bo Outlaw who is a power forward in a shooting guard/small forwards body. Those are the intangibles I was talking about. AI didn't have to do all that for his team...Tmac did.
Actually, each person is....we all judge this forum....just like you whining about me a couple of years ago.....and now again...WOOHOOO...awesome !!!! Wow, so I am so important to you that you went back a couple of years to find a post where a discussion about a ROCKETS player on a ROCKETS board was discussed, in a lame attempt at mockery. Such a credit to the GARM, you are truly making this a much better place, honestly, I can't believe that someone would actually want to TALK ABOUT THE ROCKETS on a bulletin board dedicated to the Rockets. I mean that is so horrible...ok, great, I change my opinion on Rockets players. Whoooppdddiieeedooooooo..... Oh, ya got me.....ooooooohhh....thanks for that, really...finding out a Rockets fan on a Rockets board changes his mind. (A tribute to Walter Cronkite below) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wow....breaking news......DaDakota changes mind on Houston Rockets player.... How can we all go one with our lives and live in happiness when such a prominant member of society is changing his mind about players. This is too terrible to discuss, what is next dogs and cats living together? Oh the horror....Dr. of Dunk has put on his flat feet, picked up his beanie cap, taken his slueth leather shoes and has hit the "Searching" trail to discover this important tidbit....but wait...what? DD admitted it already..... This news reporter fails to see the point. Meanwhile, the continued posting on a Rockets bulletin board about Rockets players continues to be a problem for long time crumudgeon D.o.D. Apparently it boggles his mind that certain fans would like players on the Houston Rockets and have the Audacity to post about them in the Houston Rockets forum. We will follow this story as it develops....film at 11. ----------------------------------------------------------- How dare anyone change their mind or discuss Rocket players on a Rockets bulletin board...that is just OUTRAGEOUS !!!! The GARM was better off without you and your personal attacks.....and you whined a couple years ago about me stirring up the GARM and riling up the kids....Pot...meet Kettle.... Beatdown ???...only to people who have a personal agenda to begin with, otherwise it just looks like a bitter guy who has nothing valuable to say himself. DD
Tmac was probably the best defender on his team also, while leading his team in scoring, barely 2nd in blocks and reboounds, 2nt in assists,
Trade TMac for what? Magic beans? At this point I say keep him and let his $23 million fall off the salary cap next year. They have to completely change the focus of the team going forth even if Yao is able to come back and play in 2010. One thing is for certain, that doesn't involve TMac no matter how many publicity pictures he releases. Maybe we'll get to hear him declare "It's On Me" one last time for the road.
It doesn't work like that, because we are over the salary cap, he is more valuable as an expiring contract where we can get $23 million in assets back, because if you let him expire, we get significantly less. DD
All of those guys with the exception of Raja Bell had sub par seasons post Iverson. Again, I mention this season because it's the tmac year post Toronto. Toronto missed the last shot against Philly, it was that close of a series. Would Tmac prefer to be part of that success? well he made his choice and it was not Toronto. Despite all the reasons you gave me the Orlando was not the team to beat, Tmac MADE THE CHOICE TO BE THERE. Of course no one could predict that Grant Hill would be gone for an eternity. But that's the risk you take for leaving one team to the next. Iverson stayed a Sixer for an extremely long time from the bad times to the good times. Tmac, has never stayed long enough to endure the swings and transitions of any of his franchises, Toronto, Orlando, and ... let's see with the Rockets.
Let it be known that I am not a TSlack believer. Nevertheless, I say play the bum ... tank the season!
DD I dont think anyone cares if you change your opinions, its the aarogance you come across with sometimes that gets annoying.
I came to the conclusion that you are really a drama queen DD sometimes the same as tracy when he is frustrated. Sure Dr.o Dunk called you out but you overdramatizes everything just because you don't want or you are not able to take critique.
Nah, this guy has a vendeta.....has had one for years. It is ok, I ain't going anywhere. That is how you read it, I figured most people realize it is all opinion, even if you don't type in IMO...for everything. I truly do not mean to sound arrogant at all... DD
