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Why is ther NO videos off Tracy McGradys passing??

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by TMaC MVP, Jul 20, 2009.

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  1. ItsMyFault

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    If you ask me... you're the ****tiest poster on this board.
     
  2. cuddie

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    He's not saying it's good, nobody is saying that Rocket losses are good. Your own twisted mind makes it so that anybody who defends T-Mac is an automatic TOF. People were blaming Tracy for the Rockets' first round exits. A poster retorted with a link to his last playoff game, where he was obviously the best player and the rest of the team failed to show up.
     
  3. sammy

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    LOL at Clyde calling Novak mister big shot. He is going to be the best nba coach ever!

    Mcgrady is a great passer hence all that point forward nonsense we had a while back. He made entry passes to Yao look so easy.
     
  4. chow_yun_fat

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    Watching these vids make me miss our duo of Yao + Tmac. Hopefully Tmac can return next season, cuz I love watching that guy play.
     
  5. TMaC MVP

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    exactly

    and i hope u mods realize that more than half of these post should be deleted
    make a special hate trash bin to put them in

    and just delete tinmans account, send him to a laker forum
     
  6. tinman

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    not going to happen buddy.
     
  7. SmoothOperator

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    Would you post the fact that Vernon Maxwell actually did quit on the team during the playoffs?

    No matter what you think McGrady has done, isn't that a lot worse?

    I don't have a problem with folks who criticize McGrady, but there's a huge double standard that doesn't seem fair.


    "Vernon Maxwell gave up on the Houston Rockets, and the two-time defending NBA champions have given up on him.

    The Rockets confirmed yesterday that they waived the mercurial Maxwell, who carries the nickname "Mad Max," on June 30, the day before the NBA locked out its players.

    The move came two months after Maxwell, citing a hamstring injury, quit the team after the first game of the Western Conference playoff series.

    The club subsequently gave him a leave of absence for personal reasons. "
     
  8. tinman

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    He did leave, but there's nothing that says that every team and every year he played for them sucked.

    That's the prevailing excuse here. I can't use that name cause R2K is just going to delete the post, but I'll use the name Tracy Murray.

    The prevailing excuse here is that everywhere Tracy Murray plays for 12 years, Tracy Murray never had success cause his teammates sucked.

    Even though several times that he was absent, his team went on to further success.
     
  9. DribbleHooper

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    Good one. Harsh, but good.
     
  10. SmoothOperator

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    Well, I don't see that. I think personally, McGrady comes off as a jerk, so people don't like him because of that. Because they don't like him, they rationalize their on-court criticisms.

    The whole first round thing to me gets blown out of proportion. Where were McGrady's teams seeded? The fact that they were generally low means the team overall wasn't that great. When they lose, why is it surprising?

    It seems to me that other than last year, he's always done anything he's asked to do to help the team win. He even took on defending Nowitski and did a damn good job.

    Again, the rationalizations will surface. What have you done for us lately? Only the recent past counts! If that's the case, then maybe we should have less Vernon Maxwell threads...his most recent past with the Rockets involved pouting and quitting because Clyde came and took his minutes.

    I don't think so, though. We should look at the whole body of a player's career and contribution to the team. Maxwell had some great Rockets moments, and so has McGrady.
     
  11. DudeWah

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    Tinman and antisonic have just gone bonkers
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    ....but this miguel9 dude trolls EVERY thread period. Check out the lash outs against DD. I think an IP trace will likely point back to a previously banned user. Most probably miguel45 (I'm not 100% sure...)
     
  12. tinman

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    you've read MANY Maxwell threads before, it's always double sided and that's fine. you know the Maxwell haters and supporters will always clash.

    But some people here, you know who you are, can't handle it when it comes to the topic of Tracy Chapman.

    If you drive a fast car, then you must make alot of money to buy it.

    If you think the 1st round exists are blown out of proportion then you must think that the idea that every team he plays for sucks is out of proportion too!


    You got a fast car
    But is it fast enough so you can fly away

    Sorry R2K will threaten me if I say his name.
     
  13. mdrowe00

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    God, I was hoping I could get around saying this....

    ...but I understand why guys like tinman are through with Tracy McGrady.

    I like Tracy McGrady. There. I said it (or typed it). I've been officially outed as a "T-Mac Lover".

    The kid is about as far from perfect as I am, and that's saying something. He doesn't seem to have a problem with it, either. If you were to look at Tracy McGrady during a game, you really could assume that he doesn't give a damn about what's going on.

    He turns that trick about as often as the ladies at Michael's Club do.

    McGrady has a way about him that screams lazy. Indolent. Disinterested.
    You could go it a step further and say spoiled. Malcontented. Selfish.

    That's not the way your best player should play. Or any professional player should play, for that matter. Or actually, that's not the appearance that your best player should give to anybody, teammates, media, fans...

    Anybody. He should show you that he cares. And he should show you how much he cares. And he should show you how much he cares on every play.

    He should try to win even if there's not a chance in hell of it happening. He should be so locked in and so focused that no matter what happens, the last thing anybody should be able to say is that you didn't give your best effort.

    I'd be lying if I said that I don't get the same thing, watching McGrady sometimes. I'd noticed that manner of his during the game 7 against Utah in '07.

    Before McGrady entered the game that last time, Jeff Van Gundy had asked McGrady if he was ready to go. This was his time. Here was where he could wipe away all those mutterings about how he lacked heart and how he didn't want to win. Van Gundy had done his level best to manufacture the circumstances within which McGrady (and Yao Ming, for that matter) could elevate both themselves and their teammates into something special.

    Or at least, into the second round of the playoffs.

    McGrady had the look of a man going to the electric chair when he re-entered that game. And I suppose somebody'll make a crack that he played like a dead man in those final minutes, too. I don't know if McGrady had given up. I don't know if he saw the writing on the wall, that Utah was the better team even if he was the better player. I don't know if he just didn't give a damn.

    Van Gundy still steadfastly defends Tracy McGrady. He still believes in his ability. He still believes in him. I don't know why, honestly.

    Somebody could make the case that McGrady cost a coach he actually respected and loved his job. Van Gundy could say that. He'd certainly have enough support.

    I get it when people make those comments about McGrady being a loser and a failure. I really do. I can see it. It doesn't belong there, in my opinion, but there it is.

    But the truth is, it's hard to get behind a guy who gives you the impression that he doesn't care, or that he's in it for himself.

    I don't believe for one minute that that's the person McGrady is. He could have called it career (such as it was), when he folded like a cheap lawn chair in 2005 because of his back. He's had no reason to continue to play when his only viable help was as often hurt as he was. He wasn't under contract last season, when he took shots before games to forget about his shoulder and knee barking their own protests at him driving them in spite of injury. He had nothing to lose trying to play under a coach who wouldn't feature him offensively in the ways he wanted. If he was truly so self-centered and self-serving, he gained absolutely nothing doing whatever his best may have been.

    He ultimately didn't fool anybody. And he could only be himself. Once a quitter, always a quitter, I believe the saying goes.

    I know that Tracy McGrady has some soul-searching to do. He's a guy that can't seem to do wrong right, as my dear mother likes to say. As a basketball player, he has a'ways to go yet to succeed in not only the ways that may be expected, but in the ways he wants and needs to.

    McGrady has the talent. He wants to win. He cares. I'm as certain of that as I am my own name.

    But this is a team sport. You don't win games (championships or otherwise) without good teammates. And you start by being a good teammate yourself.

    McGrady usually plays the game the right way. But he's one of those few gifted players who could change the rules whenever he needed to. He needs to be the anchor that his teammates rely on when things get tough. He's done it before. He might even be asked to do it again.

    He can't worry about the results or the perceptions, or the ridicule or the stigmas. McGrady has to play the way he's capable of playing. I know that Rick Adelman will make that simpler for McGrady than at any time in his career.

    To me, McGrady doesn't have to look like he's trying or that he cares. He doesn't need to sound like a guy who wants to win at all costs. He just needs to go out and play.

    Here's the kicker. McGrady has to play with that mindset every day. Every game. And I can't believe I just dug up that lame slogan.

    I'd hope he does that. But then again, I hoped disco was just going through a dry spell.....
     
  14. blink

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    well tinman joins the "ive been posting crap and pooping on threads since 1999" club. it's seems like more and more old school users are posting subpar quality posts and getting by on their "experience"

    tmac is a quality talent WHEN HEALTHY. can score, pass, is lengthy and athletic. i mean jeff "im a hard a$$" van gundy has nothing but praise for the guy. nothing but. so you tell us youre pulling up facts... how about acknowledging other people's stats? like how well he did given the talent of vin baker, ryan bowen, tyronn lue, moochie norris, scott padgett, mo taylor, clarence weatherspoon, and charlie ward. youve got to be kidding me if you blame tmac for that kind of talent. so to sum it up, an extremely respected coach on this board praises tmac and his stats are pretty good too. do you want to believe stats or a person who has actually coached him? id believe both over your POV. if you cant understand circumstantial situations (which is what your arguments basically are), then there is no point in arguing with the 3 people that derailed this thread.
     
  15. RocketsPimp

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    Fortunately for us that enjoy the entertainment value of his posts, no one asked you.
     
  16. t_mac1

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    tinman can get out there in regards to tmac, but he's a funny poster.
     
  17. hlmbasketball

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    Did you all see T-Mac get by Ron Artest? And the say is a defensive stud!!
     
  18. tinman

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    As I mentioned before R2K got sensitive. that was his choice.
    He was on a solid team on Toronto, which advanced to the 2nd round against the Sixers the next year.

    That was a great series too, the Sixers vs the Raptors.
    they were one shot away. THE COUSIN didn't want to be part of this.

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  19. t_mac1

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    do u even known why he wanted to leave toronto?

    ugh, i mean there's a top 5 player named grant hill coming to orlando. the next jordan at the time w/ penny. he's pretty good too u know.

    what's better? vince or grant? think about that.
     
  20. Obito

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    Every time I see a Tracy Mcgrady thread I automatically know who are the certain posters who are going to be in there.

    Is that normal?
     
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