Actually if I was LA I wouldnt be counting on him making less as a reason to stay. They have already alienated him and his agent and they cant offer the most pay because they havent. Another team could offfer a couple million more than that contract they offered by giving him the full MLE for 5 years making it more money in the long run like Ariza was offered. Like I siad. Ariza and Odom could end up getting more money in the long run by leaving LA for a full MLE. La is only offering 27 million over 3 years. Odom could get 35 million from another team over 5 years. There is no gurantee that if he accpets the 27 million he willl ever get anoth million dollar contract after staying in LA. He may only be good enough by then to make the vets minimum and it would take years to ever get to 35 million instead of just taking it already with another club instead of taking a huge paycut in LA. So I think he will leave and like Ariza with Buss hard line stance deservedly so would be justified.
Very good points. At the end of the day,I still think LAL will match an MLE offer and make amends with him later.
Can Dampier's contract help Utah out of their predicament? I also think they might want another player along with Howard,if they decide to go for this route.
Trying to keep up with the Joneses and it's looking like it isn't going to happen. As a Laker fan, I have mixed feelings about this. Odom might be the difference between winning and losing a championship but at the same time Buss is being very generous with his offers because he isn't worth that much. He is not going to show up every game, period. Laker fans have been waiting for that since 2004. The only reason he seems so great now is because he's a 3rd option at best so it isn't as noticeable when he completely vanishes for 1/3 of the season. There have been countless times when the team was counting on Odom to step up and he was nowhere to be found. When the Lakers traded for Pau, many felt that LO was expendable. Fans would have been ecstatic to trade him and have a roster with Kobe/Artest/Pau/Bynum. Now that roster is real and Odom thinks his value has gone up? The only problem I would have is losing Odom for nothing. But if he can be moved for someone like Beasley + filler, I'd say it was an excellent offseason.
Wow, Laker fans just love to say their players are expendable after Laker management lowballs them. Gosh I hate laker fans. All I see them post on espn and forums is how Odom isn't worth that much, and Jerry Buss gave him a "generous" offer. Friggin' Lakers. Anyways, Odom is a great talent, and I doubt it possible but if we could get him, I wouldn't mind that at all.
$10 milly a year is low balling? Clearly you haven't been watching Lamar for the past 5 years. I don't blame you because he is always over-hyped on nationally televised games. Mark Jackson is really the only guy that is critical of him, everyone else sees his potential and thinks he fulfilled it when that's far from reality. Detroit, Orlando, Portland, Toronto, OKC, Memphis....all teams looking for a power forward. Not one of them made an offer to LO. The Lakers had no competition for Odom and had every reason to low ball him but still made him an offer that would have made him the richest 6th man in the league. The Lakers would have never needed Pau Gasol if Odom was worth that much money. He was being paid like a 2nd option and never played up to expectations. He was being phased into the 3rd option as Bynum started to emerge. Then Bynum goes down, Pau gets picked up, and it's only logical to want to move Odom for a starting SF (Luke Walton/Vlad Radmanovic were starters at the time) since he no longer fit with the starting lineup (He's not a SF). Lamar Odom has never been an All-Star and was moved to the bench because there wasn't enough room for him. A lineup of Kobe/Odom/Bynum is strong but Kobe/Gasol/Bynum is stronger. I would love to have him on the Lakers but a notoriously inconsistent player really has some nerve to demand so much money, especially when no NBA GM (not just fans) seems to think he is worth that much.
something like this trade 1. Clears out enough cap space for Utah 2. Gets Dallas a low post presence it's looking for 3. Helps clear 2010 cap space for the Knicks (they can buy out Harpring if the choose) 4. Sends boatloads of cash to the financially strapped Kings. I'm sure other players might need to be exchanged to hold the Kings interest, but it seems like a plausible deal to me.
3 years/$30 million or 4 years/$34 million is not lowballing. It's probably more than what he's worth.
Well I hope Odom is feeling "disrespected" and signs with another team even if it's less than LA's offer. If Portland doesn't get Millsap, maybe Odom can get a 5 year 40+mil contract from them and have the last laugh.
since we're talking about the mavs, kinda, can someone who has access to ESPN Insider post this article? http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/feat...ttp://insider.espn.go.com/nba/features/rumors supposedly Chris Bosh doesnt want to go to the mavs.
FREE AGENCY: One team won't get Bosh Chris Bosh | Raptors Tim Cowlishaw of The Dallas Morning News does not believe the Mavs have any shot of signing 2010 free agent Chris Bosh after speaking with the power forward. His rationale is that Bosh loves Toronto and plays the power forward position, which is occupied by Dirk Nowitzki. "I love Toronto. And Toronto loves me," Bosh said. Toronto builds around Bosh (NBA Free Agency) "The Raptors made a nice free-agent addition in Turkoglu. While they definitely overpaid to get him, he's a great fit on a Raptors team that values spacing, shooting and skilled forwards. They also swung for the fences in the draft, landing DeRozan, who has as much athletic upside as any rookie. "The losses of Parker and Marion will hurt a little, but I think the Raptors are poised to rebound from an awful 2008-09 campaign." RELATED 07.08.09 Bosh May Stay In Toronto Miami Herald
thanks machine. i thought it would be a little more detailed, but oh well. maybe bosh is just saying the right things for right now.
Odom reportedly turned down $10 mill. All Miami can offer is the MLE, meaning they would have to do a sign and trade centered around either Beasley or Haslem to satisfy Odom's contract demands.
But, Odom is also looking for a long term deal the lakers didn't want to give him 5 years... don't be surprised if he takes the full MLE for 5 years. Also, no way Miami gives up Beasley
I would consider that to be <i>methods</i> or <i>logistics</i> or <i>details</i> of getting Odom to Miami, but it doesn't address my question about the <i>incentive</i> for Miami to trade Beasley + Filler for Odom. I looked at several stories about Odom and Miami and didn't find any mention of your proposed deal of Beasley + Filler for Odom. Do you have a link to a valid web site that mentioned that deal is being discussed? Heat linked to Lamar Odom, Carlos Boozer, Allen Iverson Talks between Lakers, Lamar Odom produce mood swings Wednesday Bullets Heat finds itself as leverage in Odom's negotiations with Lakers
I think you like to argue. My "proposed deal" was me hoping for an alternative to losing Odom for nothing. Click here for a link and scroll down about 1/4 of a page.
