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Rockets won't trade Scola or Battier now

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by bjshot, Jul 14, 2009.

  1. RedRowdy111

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    Not if you do it early enough.
     
  2. Rocket86

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    The team would not give up a season just because of injuries. The team, I believe still thinks of competing and have the pieces still to form a competitive team that COULD challenge next year. The team has expiring contracts that are very valuable in obtaining pieces for this season. Morey is just keeping his card and is not in a panic mode.
     
  3. DaDakota

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    Gortat was a sign and trade candidate BEFORE he signed the offer sheet for the full MLE, at that point all the other restrictions kicked in.....

    Sometimes players do a S&T deal as a RFA because they get more $$$$ and better opportunities elswhere.

    For instance, let's say next year Scola gets a S&T deal to go to Toronoto for $8 million a year, that is significantly higher than if he just signed a MLE type of deal.

    A good example is Milsap, he could have been in a S&T deal until he signed the offer sheet from Portland, now he is in a different class.

    Does that make sense?

    DD
     
  4. rockets934life

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    AHH...so if we had gotten with Orlando before Gortat signed the offer sheet with Dallas...we could have S&Ted with Orlando for Gortat? Interesting...doesnt this say alot of what Morey thought of Gortat?
     
  5. RocketsPimp

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    You are aware that we play in the Southwest Division of the Western Conference where Phoenix, Utah & New Orleans all won 46 or more games and are far better teams as things stand.

    I love the Rockets as much as anyone on this board, but I'm not a fool. This team is not winning 50% (41) of it's games this season. Not without at least a healthy Yao or T-Mac for the majority of the season and we know that is not gonna happen.

    Drink the kool-aid all you want, but barring some miracle we are not making the playoffs and aren't going to be winning at a .500 clip.
     
  6. Will889

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    I agree that they are both key ROLE players in our team. But can't they be had for a true superstar? Wade perhaps?
     
  7. Rocket86

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    Wade is far fetched. But an Amare would be an idle trade scenario. A center that is much needed.
     
  8. Cannonball

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    Just because might go after Bosh doesn't mean we'll get him. Trading Scola now on the chance that you land a marquis big next offseason is beyond ridiculous.
     
  9. Seth

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    Actually as a fan, after what these two made last season, and the commitment both shown for the team, i would rebuild the team for them. (not around them)

    Goodbye T-Mac and Yao, and bring in the beest 2 guard i can and center.

    Why?

    If we are rebuilding in 2010, we could be still able to get one or two players that expire in 2010 or don´t have very big contracts in exchange of those, and still be players in 2010 while giving a little chance to win for these two.
     
  10. Seth

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    I am quite sure that the restriction Gortat has is only with Dallas, the team that he signed the offer sheet with, he is still caandidate for a sign n trade with any other team.

    I will check and be back.
     
  11. Rocket86

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    Its difficult to say that the team is rebuilding more of retooling. The team. I believe still believes in Yao and have the greatest respect for Tmac and should use him as a tool to retool. The team may not be as strong as previous years but it has been built to compete despite the injuries.
     
  12. ncagg42

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    Scola and Battier are excellent role players, but the clock is ticking. This upcoming year was supposed to be our year, mainly because the ages of our players. 3rd year point guard, 3rd year power foward (up there in age however). Prime of Center, Tracy at the end of his prime. But then we ran into injuries. The question is, in 2010, will Scola and Battier still have enough left to make a run? Also, can we afford to keep all the supporting cast around Yao as well as find a wing scorer to complement Yao (whether that is bringing back tracy or finding a replacement).

    This year could be a great tuneup year for our role players if they keep there head on straight and don't get too down when there are bumps in the road.


    I feel like, if morey thinks we should be done with Yao, scola and battier should be traded for picks or prospects as well. Because neither of them will be able to play at such a high level past 2011 (most likely).
     
  13. battousai

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    The Goal for next season would be making into the playoff, period.

    Morey will listen to any offers out there for Tmac. (most likely Tmac will be back around trade deadline, as he needs to show off what he got left before his last major contract as a free FA)

    Chances are Tmac may stay and play well for second half of the season for 1. prove he can also get out of second round like Yao. 2. he still got game and will test the FA.

    Morey will see if any taker on Tmac that could push the rockets in second half of the season. as the salary cap dictated, not that many teams out there can offer max contract to FA. most FA will likely to stay put with their current team with a 2 to 4 years short contract. Or knicks would do anything to lure lebron.
     
  14. leebigez

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    Once again, we won't get any rep points for this thinking, but I'm with you from your last thread. The worse thing to be is mediocre in the nba and get a crappy pick. If I could get marc gasol for scola, he would be gone. If I could get pietrus for shane, he would be gone. If I could get a slew of other players they should do it. I for one think the rockets are in dead mans land and that's not a good place to be.
     
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    Check, you were right, he cannot be dealt again untill December 15th.

    And he will also have the trade-troubler BYC restriction.
     
  17. Depressio

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    They aren't rebuilding. There is no indication of that whatsoever. People are just freaking out and jumping to conclusions because Daryl Morey is doing his job and discussing all possibilities with all teams.

    What they are doing, however, is structuring themselves to succeed without the "cornerstone" of the organization. They've actually been doing that for a few years, acquiring players that can run and are athletic. That way, we're still competitive even if Yao is out.

    I can see us winning a lot of games next season so long as we don't get plagued by injuries to players other than McGrady and Yao. This team is still really good, and still a potential playoff team (and a dangerous one at that, as shown last season).
     
  18. Rocket86

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    Its best to just forget about Gortat, I do not think He is even in the plans of the Rockets now. He is a Magic and thats that. Hope the team focuses on other centers in the league and obtain one as soon as possible.
     
  19. LabMouse

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    Yes, you are so smart. First, this team can still make the playoff without Yao and Tmac if we can require a solid center. Secondly, you are not going to talk rebuilding until you have to. Les is going to lose money by doing rebuilding rather retooling. Remember, Jazz only missed the playoff for one time after their superstars left, the rockets are not dead just because of Yao and Tmac injures, we still have solid role players to compete, plus that I like our current coach.

     
  20. Rocketfanatic2

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    I think every member on this board would trade Battier or Scola if it meant making the team better. If morey is looking to win, he will listen to trade offers from anyone. He may have said they would be leaders, but he is still listening to those offers for either of them. I admit that it would hurt me to see Battier or Scola go, but I'll get over it, because of the fact that it will probably make us better.
     

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