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[CHRON.com/Feigen] : Joey Dorsey update

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Dr of Dunk, Jul 13, 2009.

  1. Dr of Dunk

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    An excerpt from Feigen's blog and a Dorsey update of sorts. This may give some sort of insight as to what the Rockets are thinking with regard to how much Dorsey's improved and where they think he stands in his evolution :

    http://blogs.chron.com/nba/2009/07/joey_dorsey_welcome_to_the_nba.html

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    July 12, 2009

    Joey Dorsey, welcome to the NBA


    The Rockets would have liked if Joey Dorsey had dominated. That was where they set the bar. He has not dominated.

    He has, however, demonstrated more in three days in Las Vegas than he did in all of his rookie season.

    He still has a ways to go. He played much harder than he was, but with his strengths and weaknesses, he has to become the hardest-playing guy on the court every second he is out there. He has made significant strides in that direction. He's not there, yet.

    He still makes mistakes, the sort of mistakes that he might have grown out of had he gotten anything out of his rookie season. But they are not anywhere near as common as when the Rockets checked him out last season.

    He has, however, rebounded consistently well, getting 43 boards in the first three games. He seems to slide well enough to defend in pick-and-rolls, and gets down low, making it tough to split double teams. His strength is real, not just for show (shoulders and biceps). He is legitimately tough to move down low. His work ethic and conditioning have dramatically improved, though they had to.

    The Rockets will not plan on getting much from him next season, not yet. He showed so little as a rookie, a solid few off-season months and good summer league showing will not move him up in their estimation to the point that he is in their plans.

    He has shown enough, however, that they will keep looking. That's all he needed to do here. He has to keep doing it and more, but finally, it appears that he can.
     
  2. Illmatic

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    morey, trade dorsey......NOW.

    we can't have chuck and dorsey on the active roster, unless you wanna trade chuck
     
  3. Tom Bombadillo

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    He just needs to keep plugging away.

    Hopefully he can develop into a solid reserve C.
     
  4. Pringles

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    Dorsey for back-up center would be awesome. Hopefully he keeps improving.
     
  5. xiki

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    Hmmm, I smell a Heisley attack. Pair JD with ZBo and AI. Must ... sell ... tickets ...
     
  6. moestavern19

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    Maybe he'll block 10 shots in a preseason game and desperate Kevin Pritchard will trade for him and lock him up to a long term deal and the circle of life will be complete.
     
  7. emjohn

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    He remains in my "believe it when I see it" pile. I remember watching him in college and realizing just how completely lacking he was in basketball IQ. It was the equivalent of a team picking up a defensive lineman who had never played a game in his life.

    He has Big Ben potential - but chances are extremely slim that he gets himself to where he breaks an 8-man rotation.
     
  8. Rudyball

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    It sounds like he is moving slow enough to get better by the time we have to cut him.

    Trade if possible.
     
  9. xiki

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    Now KC is really p***** at you! :D
     
  10. Doc Rocket

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    Players need to have smarts. Joey has NO smarts. People with no smarts don't play for long.
     
  11. GotGame15

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    What do they mean he is not in their plans yet? This guy is going to turn 27 in December. So, are they sayin he's going to ride the bench for one more year? that means he will start playing when he's 28?? The Rockets need to take advantage of his freakish athletic ability while they can. Why don't they slowly bring him along in the UPCOMING season? They don't have anything to lose since Yao, Tmac, and Artest are gone (for the most part) except getting him experience and knowledge of the game. They NEED to get him 10-15 mins a game or at least give him a good solid amount of games to play in just to see where he's at. Just my opinion.
     
  12. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Dorsey is just not all that good, he is a big body and good athleticism, but his offense is bad, and his bball IQ is too.

    I think DM wishes he only signed him to a one year deal.

    DD
     
  13. A_3PO

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    Ten stars for this.
     
  14. HowsMyDriving

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    people said the same thing about Chris Andersen.
     
  15. DaDakota

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    Who has pretty good BBall IQ...

    DD
     
  16. HowsMyDriving

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    my point exactly ;)

    joey is raw offensively, and still a bit awkward. but go watch chris when he was early in his NBA career and he did the same things. its only in the last couple of years that birdman turned into a disciplined enough player to stay on the floor for more than spot minutes.
     
  17. MrButtocks

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    Did you see him play before his suspension? The man was a moron on the court. In one game against us, as a hornet, he swatted at a wild fastbreak shot off the glass that had absolutely no chance of going in. We got the goaltend and the chatroom was filled with laughter. But he was still an obvious rotation player.

    I still think Joey D can contribute something similar.
     
  18. Franchise2001

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    Might have had something to do with the drugs he was on...

    It's amazing what happens when you mature, on an intellectual level.
     
  19. rockbox

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    The difference is the Birdman hustles like Ryan Bowen on coke.
     
  20. verse

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    This is patently false.

    Tim Hardaway was dumb as a box of rocks, yet carved out a nice, long career at THE position which allegedly requires the MOST intelligence - point guard.

    Shaq is not the brightest camper in the world and he's a sure fire HOFer.

    Stephen Jackson
    Steve Francis
    Brandon Jennings (soon to be)
    Chris Anderson

    I could go on, but i think the pattern is sufficiently illustrated. What wins out, as far as career longevity, is talent. While it is more than fair to argue which kind of player is favorable for your favorite team, it is just flatout not true to say that players who aren't smart do not last long in the nba. If you have a serviceable specialty, you can carve out quite a respectable career in the nba.

    See also: Ben Wallace, Ron Artest

    If you have superior talents, you can be a complete dunce and still be a HOF talent.

    See also: Moses Malone
     
    #20 verse, Jul 13, 2009
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