[Summer League 2009] Game 2 - 7/11/09 - Houston vs. Dallas

Llull is a backup PG, who needs more experience but he is better at setting up players than De Colo.

 

Beaubois sounds like he looked almost as good as John Lucas III did in summer leagues!

Beaubois' first summer league game was just blah. I'm not saying he's a dud, but let's not get carried away after his first good summer league game. That being said, I hope Budinger's stats are indicative of how he'll play in the regular season.

 

dude had 9 fouls

 

He's already "made it" - he's got a guaranteed contract for this season - team option for the next 2.

I think he only played the one summer league game last season - got 18-15 or something like that!

 

John Lucas III was fantastic, but his 5'11" height didn't help the transition from summer league to the NBA.

He couldn't even see the basket in the NBA to shoot it. LOL. He was too small to guard anyone and had short arms.

Rodrigue Beaubois is about 6'1" or 6'2", which is a decent height for a PG. His long arms will help him with defense.

 

Beaubois has a 6'9" wingspan, I think he has plenty of size to play in the league.

 

Yeah, but it's so difficult to tell how good a player is or will be based upon their summer league performances. I mean Ricky Davis was putting up 40+ a game in the summer leagues when you knew he was just a jackup artist that barely deserved starter minutes. Defense also isn't exactly a forte of these players, nor do many of them care to even play it in the summer leagues.

There have been some summer league legends though... JJ Reddick I remember was going off for 30 in games, and he hasn't exactly been all-world to this point in his NBA career. Didn't Dan Langhi do well in summer leagues? I'm sure there are people who didn't do well in the summer leagues that had pretty decent careers, as well. The list is probably endless.

 

since the Budinger thread is locked...

quotes on Budinger after game 1 of summer league:

"I thought (Budinger) had a good debut," Morey said. "He had some tough defensive matchups. (Defense) will probably be the area he needs to develop the most to get minutes in the NBA. But he's a smart player who knows what he can do. He can shoot it, run the floor, and overall knows how to contribute to a winning team."

"He moved his feet well, and he got into position, but then he just stuck his hand in there and gave the official an opportunity to (call) block, when he actually was in good position to get a charge," Dunn said later about what he told Budinger.

http://www.azstarnet.com/allheadlines/300552

 

Not disagreeing with you, but I'd think when a player averages 30 or 40 in the summer league, it's safe to take a chance on his potential. Davis and Reddick may have shown deficiencies when they got to the NBA, but they still proved they belonged in the league as bench players. Brooks and Wafer impressed with their shooting in the summer league and the assessments proved correct.

OTOH, the lack of defense definitely makes it difficult to rely on a summer league performance. I always feel you're seeing just one side of a player's ability.

 

I agree guys like Reddick are doomed to failure. Reddick gives up 3-4 to other shooting guards. He has John Lucas III syndrome of being severly undersized for the NBA. Undersized summer league stars usually fail in the NBA, even more so for 1 skill guys.

Rodrigue isn't undersized like Reddick. I just checked his predraft measurements, 6'1.25 without shoes and 6'2.25" with shoes. He is tall compared to the usual 6'0" midget backup pgs. His reach and wing span are large. He isn't a 1 skill specialist like Langhi or Reddick.

I think he can be the backup PG next year, if Barea leaves.

 

Budinger could probably play the J J Redick role for us. Reddick's disadvantage is he's not very tall or fast. Budinger can shoot like Redick and he's at least taller than him

 

This is exactly what I'm saying. If the defense sucks, how do you know the offense you're seeing is "legit"? There are guys that, if left unguarded, can pop shots all day long. But you have somebody get in their face with good defense or even suggest a double-team on them, and they lose their shot or become flustered. The good ones are the ones that don't fall apart when the defense is put on them, but that's so hard to see in the summer leagues since most of the guys in these leagues won't even make it to scrub level.

I'm not watching the summer league games because I can't tell if the NBA's streaming is worth it or not (as in, I don't know if it will be working correctly based upon what others are saying), but Budinger is piquing my interest as a guy that can be a safety valve kind of guy, a wing on a fast break, etc. But again, let's see what he does against real NBA talent and defensive sets.

 

And bud is 10x better athlete than reddick

 

I don't think Bud will get any play time. Morey called him out Budinger for his defense.

 

Hopefully a training camp with Shane/Ariza can help him out.. There are to many shooters in this league that don't play defense..

 

Everyone called budinger out for his defense that's one of the reasons why he fell into the 2nd round. I don't think morey calling out his defense makes a difference because chase already knows that he needs to improve his D and morey mentioned that at the press confrence with the rooks. Also if budinger makes the team, morey isn't gonna be decidng how many minutes he gets, coach A will make that decision.

 

Yeah, it seems harder to guage the talent level of "well-rounded" players like Budinger through summer league performances. I mean, when you saw Brooks in first summer league, you could tell his speed and hot shooting would carry over into the NBA. It's harder to have the same feeling about Budinger, a player who seems do many things well, but not one thing superbly.

That said, I do like the very few glimpses I've seen of Budinger, and at this point, I'd be interested to see both him and Taylor on the roster for this season. Budinger seems naturally suited for a complementary role in an offense, and so may develop into a solid bench guy for the Rockets.

 

Unfortunately, I was not able to catch the game, but after looking at the box score, it looks like Budinger played great. What I would like to know is how his defense was. Could someone who was fortunate enough to see the game tell me how his performance was on D. Thanks.

 

His defense was average at best, but he really excelled in the offense.

 

I just wanted to point out somethingi found a tad funny. On Charles Gaines NBA profile it shows his age as 109 hahaha.

http://www.nba.com/summerleague2009/players/index.jsp?player=charles_gaines