Yet more ethnic unrest in China with at least 100 dead

Does your sympathy apply to the Han mothers whose sons have been stabbed to death, or the Han children who were beheaded, or the Han grandmother who was burnt to death in her own home?

 

Gee, you've only read a handful articles about these killings on the internet and you've already drawn the conclusion that it's a domestic race riot, and you call my link lousy?

Given the historical volatility of the region and its long history of Uyghur separatist attacks on local government and military, you'd be rather naive not to consider the link between the riot and the separatists.

The 1992 LA race riot lasted a week, and had 53 known deaths. The 2009 Urumqi race riot lasted half a day, and had 156 deaths. You don't see any form of premeditation in this?

 

How come I don't see you post pictures of these Han victims and say how sympathetic you are?

 

“This woman had nothing to do with any of that. ” How do you know? How does she know what her brother and husband has done? Then why would police took away them on the violent sites? Because the police have leisure time and want more tension?

who should we believe? a relative of the murderer suspects doing a r****d show or the police who arrested rioters on the scene?

is that the most striking picture they got? How weak.

this one is 10 times more striking than that :

 

I am visiting Canada right now. The Canadian media seems to be less biased, i.e. it's an ethnic problem and the violence is done mostly by Uighurs, not just Han or Evil Chinese government. But by and large they still focus on the plight of Uighur more.

 

btw, I've seen pictures of decapitated men on Tianya Portal. It's disgusting. Some of these people are barbarians.

 

what is she doing except putting on a freak show and making the news? Will the police be scared by her freak show and release her husband?

The sad thing is a freak show always gets big clear pictures and circulates quickly around the world. The bloody pictures of the victims will never be seen on CNNs.

 

Another domestic riot for comparisons sake: 1993 Mumbai. Over 1000 people were killed.

China is not the United States. The way Americans respond to a situation like this is much different than how someone from China would. This is because our impoverished are your middle class, and thus they are less desperate.

Had a Uyghur separatist group destroyed the Three Gorges Dam, you would have the full validity in comparing the Uyghur actions to al-Qaeda. Otherwise, you are comparing a cherry to a watermelon.

 

Because they know that they can push Chinese people around without any consequences.

The Chinese government already looked "one level deeper" and created minority special privilige laws that make Han Chinese second class citizens in their own country. No common sense. These policies sure helped Rebiya Kadeer (11 kids, One-Child Policy doesn't apply) become a multi-millionaire in China ... and then she used that money to buy weapons for Uighurs to kill Chinese.

Basically, the strong can do whatever they want and the weak/nice get no sympathy, instead they get killed and then get blamed for getting killed.

 

Are the Hindu rioters in anyway connected to any terrorist groups?

This makes absolutely no sense at all. You are saying the LA rioters didn't kill as many people because they are richer than the Uyghurs?

I'm disappointed to see that your definition of terrorism is based on the scale of the target. I'm further disappointed to see that you value a dam, no matter how big it is, over the lives of human beings.

 

I actually like some of Sam's posts when he gives proper argued responses, but the response by him and most of the other American posters in this thread is pretty shocking to me. No matter what the reason for the Uighur's rioting, I didn't think anyone would condone their actions. They haven't gone as far to state it as such, but the general tone by them so far has been to question Han casualties, focus on Uighur suffering, and ridicule the Chinese govt. And this is with all the evidence pointing to the Hans getting slaughtered. Disgusting.

 

They were the same Hindus who destroyed the Babri Mosque, which was organized.

Basically. If you have everything you want out of life, you have less aggression. Easiest way to get what you want is through money.

Al-Qaeda is not infamous because they killed Americans; they are infamous because they destroyed the World Trade Center using airplanes.

Terrorism is based on the scale of the target because that scale is what defines the impact on society.

 

There are probably less than 20 posts in this 10+ page thread that contain pro-Han stories and images, and you are saying that there are like a billion Han Chinese here posting extremely pro-Han stuff. Are you not over-exaggerating here? How many of these pro-Han posts are just cut-and-paste jobs of news articles? How many of them are personal opinions?

Furthermore, if we take into account all the anti-Han posts by people like SamFisher and KingCheeter, then I'd say that the balance of this thread is actually favoring the Uyghurs.

Don't you find it funny that even with all the photographic and journalistic evidence which shows without a doubt that the Han Chinese are the victim of this murderous riot, there are still very few posts from non-Chinese posters that show sympathy to the Han victims?

Then there is you, who decides to "balance up" the story a bit by showing multiple pictures of a crying Uygher grandma.

Just for your information, there are over 50 minority races in China, the only two that are constantly in headlines for riots and protests are the Uyghers and the Tibetans, and they are not even the largest minority races in China. What does this tell you?

 

Welcome to the United States. That is how most of the people in this country view China and Chinese, it is something the left right and middle can pretty much all agree on.

 

Just like you call her hero, I call her a freak because I am not on your side. I am on the China side. We simply are enemies. My nerve was hit by the death of my fellow Chinese, not by the cripple freak. You are happy these days only because the 156 more Chinese are gone and you hero related to the killers can confront the police.

I would never comment on your personal political views and I understand your take. I would do the same if I am on your side. Actually, I hoped that Iraq could win...

In the end there will be only one truth. lets wait and see what had her husband done, and how this photo was taken.

 

Are the Hindus terrorists?

So you are saying that the poor people tend to be more aggressive. Does this explain why the poorest countries are always at war (which is not true)? Or why the poorest ethnic groups in America have the highest percentage of prison population?

Or it could be that it is infamous because the America government and media have been publicizing AI-Qaeda 24/7 for many many years? Honestly, how many Americans would have know AI-Qaeda prior to 9/11?

Terrorism is not based on the scale of the target. It's based on the motivation of the terrorists. Terrorism is the calculated use of violence (or threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature, through intimidation or coercion or instilling fear. If the 9/11 terrorists had been subdued on the planes and no civilians had died, would you say that it was not an act of terrorism?