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NBA Trade Rumor: Rip Hamilton for Carlos Boozer

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Rocketboi, Jul 7, 2009.

  1. sbyang

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    AK makes 16 mil, Gadzuric + Allen would be 8 mil. Milwaukee can't absorb the 8 mil difference, they are not under the cap. The only team under the cap that would have any desire to take AK is Portland, they'd have to send back around 7 mil in salary but it's technically doable. I don't see Portland wanting to do it though, it would have made more sense for them to take Jefferson or even Carter if they want to take on that much salary.

    A better idea would be for the Jazz to salary dump Okur on someone, say the Atlanta Hawks. That'd take them 6 mil under and resigning Millsap would put them back right around the tax. Of course then they'd be pretty thing in the frontcourt.
     
  2. leebigez

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    All they have to do is be within 25% of the 16m which puts them at 12m. They could do Gadzuric,Bowen,and Allen for AK-47 which would save them 4m. Boozer for Rip would save 1m. They get milsap for 7m per and the jazz are under the lt and are a better team. In the jazz offense, he is jeff malone/jeff hornacek in which he doesn't have to create a shot. Plus you have Willams who is the shot maker and taker. Milsap is younger and a better defender than Boozer with the same production. Brewer is the 3 who is backed up by bowen,miles,korver and harpring. Okur is backed up by koufus and the jazz are still loaded and ready to go. It makes sense to all 3 teams actually.
     
  3. STIX

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    Rip Hamilton for Carlos Boozer.. Just f'ckn great the Jazz get better while we stand still.. Oh well in Morey I trust
     
  4. sbyang

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    Why would Bucks agree to take on 16 mil of AK this year and 17 mil of him next year, didn't they just get rid of RJ, a better player at the same position that makes less money?

    But lets say they do agree, your math is still off. The Jazz are at 73.5 right now, say they save 5 mil, it puts them 1.5 under the tax, signing Millsap for 7 mil puts them back into the tax by 5.5.
     
  5. leebigez

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    Maybe the hoopshype is off, but by the record, follow me on this one. The lux tax is at 69m and the jazz as of right now are at 73m.

    Player 2009/10
    Dan Gadzuric $6,745,00
    Bruce Bowen $4,000,000
    Malik Allen $1,300,00
    Deron Williams $13,785,000
    rip Hamilton $11,625,000
    Mehmet Okur $9,000,000
    Matt Harpring $6,500,000
    Kyle Korver $5,155,115
    CJ Miles $3,700,000
    Ronnie Brewer $2,717,161
    Kosta Koufos $1,214,040
    Eric Maynor $1,318,920
    Paul Millsap $7,000,000
    Kyrylo Fesenko $870,000 $0 $0 $0 $0
    TOTALS: $74,892,000

    The thing is with those deals, they would have korver,harpring,bowen,and allen as expirings. Getting rid off korver or harpring for a 2nd rd pick would drop the team below the lux tax. If a team like Portland or the Clipps could just take korver or harpring for nothing. Its not that hard really.
     
  6. sbyang

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    So the Jazz are over by 5 mill, close to what I said before. Anyway, I agree that there are ways for the Jazz to avoid paying the tax, I disagree that moving AK is one of those ways. They have some guys who can play that are easy salary dumps. AK is not 1 because of his 2 year deal. The only way they can move AK is to take back an equally bad contract, like tmac's deal, even then tmac's deal is alot better because it expires after 1 season. Never say never regarding NBA trades, Zach Randolph got traded so anything's possible, I don't think it's happening though.
     
  7. W22_STREAK

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    Detroit got Villanueva...why do they need Boozer? Doesn't make sense to me.

    But I really like the direction Detroit is going in though. Cash in on 2 free agents just off their rookie contract ready to produce in their prime.
     
  8. blender

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    I don't really see how trading for Hamilton makes Utah that much better. Maybe if they have a second trade dealing Korver (or Brewer) + filler for a big to replace Boozer?
     
  9. BimaThug

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    Maybe they will, maybe they won't. I'm not going to get into any conjecture about subsequent roster moves, including about whether the salary cap math works.

    My point is that the author definitively states that THAT deal allows the Jazz to more aggressively pursue Millsap. That is simply false. Not only false, but the OPPOSITE of what he says.
     
  10. MC Welk

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    Doubt the Jazz take on Hamilton's salary for 3 years given the pessimistic prediction for the 2010-11 cap.
     
  11. The_Yoyo

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    why would detroit want boozer after getting charlie v


    also the jazz are at or over the luxury tax already before signing milsap (if no one else makes an offer at him) why would they want another player who would make a lot of money for a long period of time.


    if milsap leaves they need to hold onto boozer, that system wont work without a power forward
     
  12. uchlha

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    Villanueva and Boozer are two completely different players. I think if Detroit pulls off this trade they are back in business...
     
  13. Sonn

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    I hate the Jazz!!

    Go Clutch!!!
     
  14. Ziggy

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    Boozer can play center in the east and if both Milsap/Boozer leave Sloan plugs AK47 back into the 4 spot and he starts putting up 16ppg again. You can put anything into the Utah Jazz's 4 slot and they will produce. As long as its not Sunday.
     

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