All I know If I were a free agent, A big time free agent....Why Would I want to stay in Houston when our hopes ride on our injury plagued stars. Trade Mac, Yao is done (most likely) ...Thats probably why Ron left and Gortat has not signed or wont. If you know T-Mac is still on this team for now and Yao is always hurt....Our chances of scoring someone big are low until they are out....Hope I don't bruise any egos...But lets be honest.
I do not think Yao is over rated. When he is healthy he can be dominant, although in the last few years it has been eaiser for other teams to take him out of the game by fronting him. Each of the least four years has been bittersweet for me as I loved the Rockets effort but every game that was played I was always worried if this is the game that Yao and/or McGrady will get injured. The problem is continually relying upon Yao being injury free when the reality is that he will probably have more injuries as he gets older, if he even ever plays again. Not signing Artest and instead signing Ariza is a good move towards building a team better suited for Adelman's offense and starting the post Yao/McGrady era. Morey should assume both Yao and McGrady are finished then if either of them plays again all the better.
I don't agree with you there. I think he has been a great player, but he is injury prone. He's good, but his body is hard on him. I don't think we should trade him, but when he becomes a FA I dont think we should spend alot of money on him. I'd say offer him 30 mil for 3 years. I dont think he is worth much more than that, due to his injuries (depending of course on how he plays till the end of his contract). But if someone comes along and offers him more than that, I'm fine letting him go. Id like to see him stay a Rocket, but he needs a paycut due to him constantly being injured.
Yao has always been over rated and the fact that the Rockets never were able to get out of the first round until this season is evidence of that. Other than that, the rest of your post was a good one and it's time to move on past both of them.
I guess some of you just enjoy having players get paid a ton of cash to sit on our benches then. Right now Yao is about as valuable as Kelvin Cato was.
damn you must be the big man on campus? you really told all of us...damn son, mad props...must feel so happy you predicted yao would get injured...genius. mad props man, you told us all...you should be upgraded to mod status.. honestly, what's the point of this thread..to tell rox fans "you told us so." tellin ppl time to end the fantasy AFTER yao gets injured and now untradeable. come on..geez
what the heck dude your idiot remove this thread ridiculous.. hes 315 pounds 7 foot 7 played constantly over the past 5 years.. just cause hes out for a bit dont mean you gotta hate man name another center beside dwight that can put up yao number and carry a team
That's the point. I said before all of that happened and I was cursed at by many of you guys that act very immature and ridiculous in here who aren't capable of making arguments without malice and a flood of insults. You know the little crowds that think they know it all because they have a lot of posts. Yeah, those guys. Well, when a bunch of guys act like a bunch of homerish jerks, then the "I told you so's" become a lot more relevant. Maybe had the general population came back with some reasonable arguments at the time and said why they didn't want Yao traded without saying stuff like "go kill yourself" other posters wouldn't come back in to smear in some of you guys faces who obviously were wrong. Actually the same thing happened with Tmac as well. I remember the big bunch of guys who so arrogantly cursed anyone who said anything negative about Tmac and said that the Rockets would never go anywhere with him as their leader. Yep, I remember those same homers dishing out back then as well, and still have yet to admit that they were wrong and very foolish to lash out at people who had a different opinion at the time.
Exactly, and that's exactly why keeping Yao was a big mistake. The Rockets and China both rode him into the ground and we were very foolish to think that he would get better and better long term. YOu obviously aren't aware that needing a top center is not near the big NEED that it was in the 90's. Centers are that important anymore. They're are hardly any good ones in the league at all and there are a ton of teams that don't have great centers and are a very good team. You need a real dominant player is what you need, and Yao has never been that. The weakest argument for Yao has always been "he's one of the best centers in the league" but the people making that argument couldn't even name 5 good centers in the league period. Try comparing Yao Ming to other stars around the league at other positions and he's not even close to being an elite player and never has been.
You remind me of someone... Who is it... Can't quite put my finger on it... Oh, wait! Are you related to Traitor George?
The problem is Yao isn't out for a bit as you claim. He's likely out for more than a "bit" this year and has been injured more than a fair amount over the last 3 or 4 seasons. Like Tracy, if Yao and his huge contract aren't on the floor putting in the work then it's money down the drain and a prolongment of re-tooling this team with big name players that don't have the "if healthy" tag attached to them. Like a lot of other people around here, I'm tired of hanging my hopes on two guys that have become less and less dependable. I love Yao as a person and as a Rocket, but his inability to stay healthy is becoming and albatross around the neck of this franchise.
Between the two of them, this has been the case for the last 3 seasons, and Morey and Les should have seen this coming before hand. This isn't the NFL where you can just cut off a bad contract. These contracts are guaranteed and in the NBA you can't just bounce right back to being an ELITE team when you have things like this happen so putting your chips into two injury prone players for as long as we have has been way to risky and has bit us really hard now. Thank god we signed Artest for at least one season and he was able to lead this team to an exciting season where many fans were finally able to see a 2nd round playoff series. It was a fun ride this season while this team battled a lot of odds. But because we made Yao ming the face of this franchise and didn't try and trade him while his value was still high now we're stuck with him and his big contract along with Tmac's as well.
Yao Ming was a huge financial success for Les Alexander and the league. He got us to the playoffs many times as well. We had a competitive team. And as much of a fantasy as you think it is, we are stuck with Yao and T-mac. No one wants them. Too high of a risk for injury. So we just have to hope to get lucky and that they get healthy.
It's not about the past anymore. It's about the future. Yao's future is very uncertain. The Rockets are going to have to a contingency in place in case Yao is done for good. Busniess decisions aren't always in line with personal feelings.
Now, there's some common sense. Yao isn't as bad as the OP would like to believe. We're all not happy that he's injured again, some people think he should go, some people think he won't play again, some think he'll get injured again quickly, there's a lot of thoughts. But what shouldn't be up for debate is the fact that Yao is a good player. He's good. You can talk different levels of goodness, star/superstar/etc., but he's good. End of story.
The Rockets have always been a Playoff contender with Yao. Yao is the Rockets... I doubt the Rockets will get far without him..
Eh? The Rockets are the Rockets. The current players are the Rockets. The Rockets are not one man, they're a team. This season, it may be hard for them to get too far without him as he won't be playing and we don't have the money we're paying him to get somebody else. But after that, the Rockets will be fine.
