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Morey's Plan

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by thelasik, Jul 1, 2009.

  1. arno_ed

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    What I like about morey is that he isn't panicking.

    He isn't willing to overpay Gortat just because Yao is injured. He want him for good value (we have been overpaying in the past) and otherwise we do not get him.

    He doesn't seem to mind one year of losing (and getting a high draft pick), so offering Artest a too long contract which will also not add that much (we will not win a championship with Artest and without Yao this year, we might make it to the play-offs but we will be first roundfodder (it will only get us a little more wins and therby decreasing our draft position). So why sign Artest for a longer term, and cutting in our salary cap. he isn't the star player who will get us a championship.

    I'm really happy with the way Morey is handling the situation. He really seems like a smart guy.
     
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  2. mikol13

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    Well I for one will be there no matter what. Do i want to win? Of course.
    But If Morey is rebuilding then I support that. If he is clearing cap space for 2010 then I will follow. I know alot of people are looking for this big splash right now, but be patient. I think big things will happen. There seems to be so much more going on than some realize.
     
  3. mikol13

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    IMO I think they are going after players that may fit RA's style. I believe he will be here, even if that means having some growing pains this season.
     
  4. cml750

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    I can't believe some posters are talking about a healthy Yao in 2010. Don't you understand by now that Yao wil NEVER be healthy. The best thing Yao could do for this team now is to turn down the final "player option" year of his contract so we can have a lot of cap space for 2010.
     
  5. blender

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    That's a good question. Adelman signed on to coach a contender and may not want to be part of a long rebuilding process. My guess is that he'll stick with it and if he does, Morey will want him around.
     
  6. Knight

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    Does anyone know how many teams have enough cap room to sign 2 max players? Does NY? How about 3 max players (is that even possible)?

    There's lots of rumours that Lebron and Wade wants to play together. There's also rumours that Lebron and Bosh wants to play together as well.

    Now, if Houston can somehow position themselves as the ONLY team with the caproom for 3 max players (yes, that involves trading Yao for an expiring - someone may bite for the lucrative chinese market?) then Houston can clear house and there is a good chance that all 3 will sign with Houston. After that, who cares who your role players are? :)

    Just a wild thought. This is probably the only way we can get Lebron unless he suddenly decides he wants to play with Yao next year. Otherwise I think the Knicks are a lock to get him.
     
  7. shortfuse3

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    If we trade Yao, we have no more chinese market.
     
  8. giddyup

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    Remember when the Houston Oilers were the second best team in the NFL... right behind the Pittsburgh Steelers.
     
  9. real_egal

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    I like young athletic players with potential too; however, you are still counting your luck that potential can turn into real result someday. I don't think simple cap space will land you super star. I don't think bunch of young unproven players can lure over super star either. If the old Memphis team minus Gasol is the direction we are going, we are going farther away from title or even playoffs.

    This could be a plan with potential, but not high possibility of success.

    Just my 2 cents.
     
  10. Alvin Choo

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    Why rebuild just because of 1 injury? Reports have already stated that yao could be back by next year. So we hang along till Yao and Tmac finally recover and make a push during the playoffs.
    If the rox can win the whole lot being the 6th seed, why cant the rox do it again at 2010?

    However I do like the approach of getting younger players. Its something the rox could benefit from, especially after so many injury plague seasons.
     
  11. thelasik

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    This isn't just "1 injury." Ron is most likely gone, TMAC is done and Yao is done for one year (at the very least).
     
  12. BackNthDay

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    I agree with starting over, based on Yao's health. W/o a scorer in the playoffs, it would have been hard to advance past the Spurs, Lakers, or Portland.

    I really like Gortat (Polish Hammer), let's be real, Ron let us down in the playoffs against the Lakers with his very poor shooting and theatrics. I would not waste 8 to 9 mln over 3 years on Ron w/o the chance of winning a title.

    We haven't won since 95, so what's the big deal with waiting another 2 or 3 years. I also say we need to let Wafer move on. Dude is straight head case and liability on D. Love his scoring though, but he let Vujachick take him straight out of the Faker's series, when we needed his scoring. Real talk Wafer is who he is going to be, head case, no D, no passing, and all scoring.
     
  13. Rocket86

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    Morey's is patiently waiting for a GM to make a mistake and pounce on it. He knows that it is early and GMs around the league are not opening their cards yet so He is basically playing the field for opportunities to strike.
     
  14. Hippieloser

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    It worries me too. High draft pick DOES NOT EQUAL SUPERSTAR. It's no better than a spin of the roulette wheel... for every Dwight Howard, there's an Emeka Okafor. Or a Greg Oden. "Can't Miss" draft picks that aren't ever going to lead a team anywhere. Even Yao Ming turned out to be a disappointment.

    But hey, what choice do we have? We are not going to get Lebron or Wade. Maybe they'd have considered it if Yao Ming could stay healthy, but with his career in doubt, why would they choose to play here? The money is the same everywhere. Even if they did, you need MULTIPLE stars just to MAKE the playoffs in the West.

    There's this attitude on the bbs right now that we'll go through one down season, magically land a superstar through the draft and sign another through free agency, and we'll be back. It ain't that easy. Rebuilding takes years. That new-look Trailblazers team wasn't built in a single offseason, and they're STILL not contenders.

    Gentlemen, there's no way out of it. We're in for a rough FEW years.
     
  15. J-Tang

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    I agree with the poster above. The problem isn't just whether or not our "high draft picks" become good players..it's if we can actually land a substantial superstar in the 2010 free agent class! We are NOT going to get James or Wade.
    That leaves us with
    Bosh (26 yrs old in '10)
    Stoudemire (28)
    Johnson (29)
    Pierce (33)
    Ginobili (32)
    Nowitzki (31)
    Jefferson (30)
    Redd (30)
    Nash (36)
    Allen (34)
    Chandler (28)
    Howard (30)

    Restricted free agents: Roy, Gay, Aldridge, Rondo

    Not to mention that we have to resign some our own players that year...Restricted: Landry, Scola, Lowry, and maybe the unrestricted: Yao, TMac

    Don't expect 2010 to turn out just as think it would. I really do believe last year was our peak chance in pretty much a decade.
     
  16. J-Tang

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    The point I'm trying to make with the last post is that a lot of those players will be getting old...and not that many of them look that desirable after you knock out James and Wade.
     
  17. JoeZ

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    Great outlook..Im all for the future! We have to dominate somehow and IT looks like he has it together! Go Morey!
     
  18. J-Tang

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    I don't think we should begin throwing our players off the ship right now to clear cap space for 2010. There's no guarantee we get the players we want in 2010, nor is there a guarantee they are still that healthy or good. Do we really want to sign a 32 year old player to a multiyear contract?

    We should keep McGrady right now, let him expire in 2010 and use his money on the players that we need. Sign Gortat so we can get through the season next year then use him as a backup if Yao comes back. If Yao never comes back, at least we still have gortat. let Yao rehab for a year, hope he is fresh for 2010. We should keep as many of our current players as possible. If Artest needs to go, then let him go, he should be the exception. We need to stay competitive to attract players and make ourselves have higher expectations.
     
  19. Egghead

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    Morey needs to get Marvin Williams. maybe a S&T
     
  20. megastahr

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    Off subject but I was wondering if we (sing I cant start a new thread)...can post thread dedicated to possible sign and trades? I know the Cavs and Lakers have shown interest in Ron...If ron is going to sign with one of those teams it has to be through a sign in trade.

    So we either pay him slightly above MIDlevel which is like 5.5 which we cant turn down...or we do a sign and trade for say 8-9 mil with the team of his choosing. I think that is what is inevitably going to happen...so what would we want?

    Another expiring contract? Trade to Portland for Rudy and Outlaw...What course of action do you that Morey would take?
     

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