[NYDailyNews] Rockets Offer Brooks And Battier For Rubio

Let me put it this way CXbby...

Why would any GM prefer high risk, high reward (HRHR) to low risk, high reward (LRHR)? Lets say we were betting on a coin flip and I offered you two choices:

a) I put up $10 and you put up $10
b) I put up $10 and you put up $ 5

Both options have the same 'high' reward, but one risk is high and one risk is low. Like I said before, it's not a 'style' or 'MO' to prefer the latter. A style would be to prefer, say, 4 year college kids in the draft who are already close to their potential (LRLR) to high school kids with more upside (HRHR).

And citing instances where the Rockets got good value in trades is irrelevant. Yeah, in hindsight we didn't give up much to get Artest, but it's not like there are any other GMs who would have said 'You know, we're getting a lot of reward here, but I don't think we're risking enough, so we reject it.' If they rejected it, it would have been because they thought there was too much risk, or too little reward.

 

I believe it's true. Rockets will not trade Yao, Scola and Battier.

 

Come on!!!, just do the deal T-Wolves!! It would help both teams.

 

If that's the case, does it make any sense to argue that the Rockets dropped the ball in not acquiring Carter without having a firm idea of what the Nets would have offered or accepted?

 

What ???

 

i can't believe they actually attempt this. Rubio is too overrated right now. let him play first. Brooks and Battier done well last season and a big factor in our success. Its too big of a risk, i don't think the Rockets should've taken

 

This trade disgusts me. If it went down, I think I might not trust Morey nearly as much as I did. Rubio is unproven and a foreign talent. Even Vspan looked good in the olympics, would you trade AB0 and Batman for Vspan? I don't think so. The only reason I could see Houston do this is a salary dump to keep Ron, but! Ron without Shane is weak. We were the only team to pose a threat to LA because Ron and Shane locked down Kobe in a way that no team could. Splitting those two up is crazy.

Rockets, if you have any decency at all, and you wanna trade Shane, package Ron in too. Haha.

 

This is kinda off topic but are the Rockets completely out of any Amare talks? From everything I've read online it seems like the trade with Golden State with dwindling down. I also just read on hoopshype.com that said "Amaré Stoudemire's camp has not heard from any other NBA team about the possibility of acquiring him or any interest in securing his future with a contract extension"

 

no he looked GREAT

 

I never said his style is to PREFER low risk high reward over high risk high reward, no one would, I agree. My point was that some GMs are not deterred by high risk high reward, while others(Morey) tend to pass on the high risk high reward and wait for a better deal.

 

It's possible we are nearing blow-up-team-mode. Looks like the pieces(major pieces) we put together are falling apart.

 

TWolves will never do this trade.

Battier is overpaid for his one dimension game and he has no place in a rebuilding team.

Brooks......They got enough PGs.

 

You've been b****ing since Thursday in almost every one of your posts that Morey somehow "fell asleep at the wheel DANG IT!!" yet you concede in the same breath that you can't come up with a practical package that would satisfy New Jersey.

As usual, you never cease to amaze me.

As if this wasn't tragically humorous enough, you insist in every post upon not trading Aaron Brooks - the only guy on our roster with upside comparable to Courtney Lee. I couldn't make this up if I tried.

 

I do think we could have gotten Vince Carter, I do think we could have put a package together.

But, what is the point now of arguing it? You nor I can tell exactly what New Jersey wanted, or didn't want.

You, nor I, can tell if Morey offered or didn't offer anything.

Yes, I am b****ing because other teams went after talent that I think would make the team better.

If Morey somehow creates a roster that is better by October, fine...but for now, I am PISSED OFF, that the Rockets seem to be after rookie PGs and malcontented PFs which are two positions of strength, IMO.

At least that is my opinion....what is yours? Or did you just come in here to b**** about how I post and not the actual content of the thread?


DD

 

The Twolves would be dumb to do this trade. Battier is a one dimensional player who plays great defense and does little else. Brooks is an undersized PG who is turnover prone and struggles to play defense against larger PGs.

So the Twolves should give up a potential superstar player that everyone in the league covets for two average players? LOL I don't think so. Just think how furious we would be if the shoe was on the other foot. What if WE had Rubio right now and we traded him to Minnesota for Brooks and Battier. This bbs would go into meltdown mode, I guarantee it.

 

Sorta like the Gay trade?

 

I saw that, too, and had to wonder if our pursuit of Rubio was in connection to the Phoenix trade---acquiring Rubio for Phoenix in a 3 way deal? or more concerned with getting Rubio instead, using Brooks (with Tmac and a PF) as bait that would otherwise go to Phoenix as part of any deal that brought us an overpaid guard along with Amare?

 

Yeah, pretty much.

 

After watching our series with the Lakers, and then watching the Lakers the rest of the way, I'm convinced that Battier is extremely important in our efforts to beat them.

If we want a championship in the next year or two, we have to keep Shane.

 

I seriously can't believe I'm arguing with you about this. You've taken every opportunity you have found to somehow proclaim that Morey dropped the ball in not dealing for Carter. How do you not comprehend the relevance of a query directed toward you as to what we could have possibly offered to satisfy the deal? Seriously. This is literally the logical equivalent of me b****ing next year when we don't sign Lebron (with recognition that we don't have the cap space to sign him.)

I don't know how much clearer anyone can enunciate this for you. Courtney Lee was part of the deal. Courtney Lee most likely has higher value than Carl Landry - we don't know, but it's probable. The only guy on our team with comparable value is Aaron Brooks - they have Devin Harris and even more painfully, you've made it a point to assert that Brooks shouldn't be traded.

And even after this stream of consciousness, you somehow have formed the assertive conclusion that a deal was possible but Morey chose not to act on it. It's amazing. When pressed to explain what we should have offered and presented these facts, you merely retreat and claim you have no knowledge of NJ's desires, all the while returning back in the next thread and stating that "MOREY DID NOTHING DANG IT!!! WE COULDA HAD CARTER!!! DD"

So you don't want to trade Aaron, yet we have no way of knowing if Landry would have sufficed. So thus you conclude that we could have done it (for Landry or whoever) but the fact that it didn't get done was merely because of Morey's reluctance. Huh? Are you just mad due to some impatience at a lack of trades? This isn't fantasy basketball.

I have no idea how any rational observer above the age of 15 can be "PISSED OFF" at status quo just 3 weeks after the end of the NBA Finals. It baffles me.

My opinion is that it's June 29th.