[NYDailyNews] Rockets Offer Brooks And Battier For Rubio

I hope we don't give up too much for Rubio unless the Rockets believe he will be the next franchise player after the Yao era. Personally, if Rubio had a better looking shot, with his age and court vision, I think he is worth chasing after. However, his shot is pretty damn ugly and he's been in Euroleague for about 3 years?

 

rubio is legit......trade anyone but yao to get him..

 

Rafer is bad. Period. Did you see how quickly the Magic unloaded him?

 

Should have made it more clear, i was talking about shooting, yep Rafer is bad, Rubio on the other hand

Rubio won't fit on this team, his passes to Yao will probably go out of bounds every time because Yao won't see it coming.

 

McGrady to the Pistons for Hamilton, etc. comes to mind.

 

So let's not bring in any players with passing skills because Yao is too slow to react to passes from someone like a Rubio or Nash? Kyle Lowry made a few fancy, but I'll-advised passes to Yao, but he came around and understood how to play within Yao's limitations. Rubio could do the same.

I see everyone dogging his shooting, but we just grabbed a shooter in Budinger on draft night. We wouldn't be bringing Rubio here for his shooting skills. Besides, he's not even old enough to drink in the US. He's got plenty of time to finish growing, put on some weight and work on his shot.

 

NO way, keep battier....brooks gonna develop giv the kid some time

 

Lighten up, the Rubio passes is a joke.

My point is: Nearly everyone had a problem with Rafer because his shots weren't falling, now all of a sudden people want to bring in Rubio who can't hit a 18ft consistently. Yes we are not bring Rubio here for his shooting but teams will sag off him and double our other players, you can't just ignore his shooting and say "Oh its ok he won't have to shoot."

We are in win now mode, we can't wait for some 18 year old to develop his shot (if he ever does) while Yao, Scola, Ron and co gets older.

 

Off topic but the Magic got exactly what they wanted out of Rafer. He was an excellent stopgap measure for when Mo Williams was out, but too expensive to be a backup PG. So once Williams comes back, they ship Rafer's expiring contract out in a package to get a star player they needed in return. Things couldn't have worked out better for them, IMO.

I don't know if Morey could do better with Cook and his expiring. We'll see.

 

I think you meant jameer nelson instead of mo williams.

 

The difference is that Rafer was a chucker. He would take just as much or more shots than Yao Ming, T-Mac, and Artest. Rubio is a pass first PG, where shooting is the last option.

 

D'OH!


Thanks.

 

What isn't mentioned is who the filler was. IMO, Rubio by himself isn't worth 2 starters on one of the best teams in the NBA. He's not that good right now but people look at how young he is and project how much he is going to grow by the time he's in his mid 20s. Based on the opinions of the guys that are on his jockstrap in this thread he should averaging 30ppg 15 dimes and be the only 7 ft PG in NBA history.

 

Dude...aside from the Steve Francis era, we've been in "Win Now" mode since the 1st championship..aside from the 2nd title, what do we have to show for it except for high expectations and heartbreak?

Point is, you just can't put all your eggs in one basket every year. There has to be an eye on the future and thank God Morey realizes this. If you want to see what a real Win Now franchise looks like, check out Miami after they won the title a few years back with that old lineup they had....they mortgaged the future and they've been lottery bound ever since

 

They won the championship, isn't that the whole point?

 

The Spurs have done alot better than Miami, because they still developed late draft picks like Parker and Ginobili.

 

If you give up Battier, I'd presume that Morey has a deal in place for McGrady. I think you move Artest to the 3 and need a more wing oriented player and I don't see Wafer being the answer there. McGrady for Rip and Sheed?

 

They won the second title in '95 after trading Otis Thorpe for Clyde and Tracy Murray which as we know was all good because we actually won it all. But since the second title, Les (and Carroll Dawson) at the time had been on a mission to "buy" us another Championship by trading young players for vets, drafting players who they knew weren't gonna play for us and shipping them overseas (to make room for more vets on the roster) and drafting players when there were players on the board who could actually contribute etc etc etc.


Again, from '95 until '99 when we got Steve that was the drill.....After we got Steve it was nice because we went young and actually "homegrew" some players but that ended when we hired JVG and traded for Tracy. People talk about the "talent" on those JVG teams but he wanted veterans players and came out often saying that he wouldn't play rookies and young guys. Again, where did that get us.

Now it looks like Morey is correcting the wrong, keeping an eye on the present by acquiring talent first. I think he's doing a great job of getting key vets while giving the youngsters a chance to grow also.

My whole point with this is that if he and Adelman feel that Rubio will make a bigger impact than what Shane/AB brings to the table I trust him.

Beside, Rubio for Shane by itself makes since. Can you imagine Rubio on a break and he drops one of those no look passes thinking Shane is where he thinks he'll be but instead, Shane ran the break but camped out at the 3 point line LOL.....we need smart offensive to go with Rubio, guys who understand offensive flow, cuts, movement, breaks and system basketball. I love Shane and all the "glueness" that he brings but he wouldn't exactly thrive with a Ricky Rubio

 

Rasheed is a FA.

 

If the offer is true---and why wouldn't it be?---then Minnesota has plenty of time to field offers and see what else they can get from the Rox and from other teams.

Also, their GM wants to look like he made every good-faith effort before he trades the kid's rights. That way, he not only gets the best deal, but looks like he knows what he's doing, as opposed to the McHale era.

I think such a deal would force us to take back the contract of....uh, um, I can't remember the name, some Great White Nope who thankfully has an expiring contract, not Madsen but the other one.