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[Yahoo Sports Twitter] Pistons trade rights to Chase Budinger to Rockets.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by m_cable, Jun 25, 2009.

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  1. Shaud

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    lol....
     
  2. Spacemoth

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    I'm starting to come around on Chase. Rivals which tends to have more prescient ratings for their high school picks than the actual pre-draft ratings themselves put Budinger at #4 in his high school class. Here's the total list.

    1. Greg Oden
    2. Kevin Durant
    3. Brandan Wright
    4. Chase Budinger

    5. Thaddeus Young
    6. Spencer Hawes
    7. Javaris Crittendon
    8. Wayne Ellington
    9. Ty Lawson
    10. Brook Lopez

    Rivals has had a great record of rating talent in the past decade, excepting 2005 (which in retrospect was a pretty crappy high school class, only Monta Ellis at #3 panned out and even he was drafted in the second round). The fact that he's got 38.5 inch ups helps the comparison between him and Barry even further, as Barry was also a deceptively athletic long wing player. But he was also smart enough to play point at times. We'll see with Chase.
     
  3. roslolian

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    I don't know man, the short arms bug me a lot. His athletecism is good but in the NBA everyone is an athletic freak. The shorter your arms are the harder it is for to succeed, although Landry having the same short arms but making up for it with intensity, smarts, shooting and mad hops really gives me hope since he has the athletecism, shooting and smarts already. Let's hope he can overcome his short arms like Landry did.
     
  4. jopatmc

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    Short arms have their advantages too, especially on an athlete who can run and jump like Chase. Less problems with shot mechanics which leads to greater shot consistency is a great benefit of shorter arms. Also, a quicker release means he can squeeze off the shot better from the spot up.
     
  5. roslolian

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    Well I'm really happy he knows what role to play on this team. In his interview he was already talking about receiving the kick out pass and knocking down the open J. Drafts rate him as one of the best shooters for his class (along with Daye and of course Curry), and a lights out shooter would be a god send for this team
     
  6. jVgOwnsYou

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    Shooting is definantly what he can bring to the table. I'm not blown away by his athleticism like some are, but he seems to have a good understanding of the game and he can shoot and pass.
     
  7. tiger0330

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    Same here, some leaping ability but doesn't seem overly quick or fleet of foot. People go overboard for likeable underdogs like Budinger every draft but the reality is the Pistons didn't think he was worth keeping at 44 and traded him to the Rox. Low pick in a weak draft, I don't see him making it.
     
  8. jVgOwnsYou

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    He will have to pick up the system quickly and he will have to knock down open shots. He will not have any room for error as there are so many capable players on the roster who can make him expendable.
     
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    I see him being productive. Its funny how some say he can be bust at the 44th pick. If he left after his freshman year then I think the chance would be higher for a bust, but 3 years with 3 different coaches is tough on any 18-20 yr old player and hes coming to coach that will get the best out of you.
     
  10. jasonemilio

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    For those of you still not convinced he's not THAT athletic, watch this, again:

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  11. jVgOwnsYou

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    He has a high verticle but that alone doesn't equate to athleticism. Especially when youre comparing him to players in the NBA.

    To me athleticism in basketball is about power. how quickly and how powerfully you can make movements. With Buddigner I see that he is agile but not powerful or explosive. You can still be a great player without the explosiveness, but please don't say Buddinger is athletic when compared to other NBA players. He's not. He has an impressive verticle but he doesn't have the explosive qualities that athletic NBA guards have.
     
  12. BimaThug

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    Sorry, guys, but I'm too lazy to scroll through the last 12 pages of posts.

    Does anyone know EXACTLY which future second rounder the Rockets traded to get Budinger's draft rights?
     
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    reminds me of matt bullard with a perm. i think he is gonna be a pretty good player because he really seems like a smart player and is able to knock down the 3. the rockets are a perfect team for a guy like budinger to develop his confidence. some of our more defensive minded guys can make up for his defensive shortcomings. there isn't alot of guys with this kind of stroke. he is like a kyle korver but more athletic. we needs guys that can flat out shoot with yao getting so much attention. if he does become a korver, he could also be worth something in a trade :D
     
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    You make no sense, sorry to say. You don't possess a "high vertical" without possessing some level of explosiveness. I have literally seen 90% of Arizona's games and he has very quick and explosive hops. In terms of running and jumping he's easily better than half of the NBA athletes. But I do agree that basketball is not just vertical abilities, but lateral movement as well; so in that regard Chase would be average. But when it comes to exploding into the air around the basket, he will easily be on the best finishers on this team (assuming he makes it) already. People here mistakenly think Landry as an athletic freak-but he's NOT. Landry is an undersized power forward who might be good athlete with strength, but he cannot jump off of one foot as well as someone like Chase, who was trained mostly to jump that well in volleyball anyways.
     
  15. jVgOwnsYou

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    You are kidding yourself if you think this guy is going to come into the NBA and be able to finish regularly around the basket. First of all he doesnt have the strength to get position inside. Second of all there is no way hes going to be exploding by defenders on the perimeter on his way to the basket. He's not powerful enough.

    His impressive verticle probably comes from the fact that he trains to jump from a standing position so he could be a volleyball stud. That wont mean he will be an effective finisher in the NBA. You mentioned Landry. He may be undersized, but he's powerful. If he gets his hands on the ball by the basket, theres not many guys who are strong enough to stop him from getting it up to the rim. He's explosive. Theres a difference.

    The only dunks Budinger will get in the NBA will be in transition and I don't think he has the end to end speed to consistantly beat NBA guards down the court in transition.

    Like I said earlier. Budinger's best asset is his shooting and his passing. Its not his athleticism.
     
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    Case in point: I watched the entire Lousiville game twice in which he was the only Arizona player to effectively score against their athletes. He scored twice on run outs and press, beating their defenders in transition. He has very deceptively long strides and good top end speed.
     
  17. jVgOwnsYou

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    We'll see. There are very few guys in the NBA who can consistantly overmatch opponents with their athleticism. I dont think Budinger is that type of athlete. I think he's going to have to be a guy who plays smart and within the system to be effective. I dont think he will be presenting any teams with matchup problems due to his athleticism.
     
  18. Drift Monkey

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    Uhh...Landry's wingspan is 6'11". That isn't THAT short for someone 6'8" without shoes.

    Budinger's wingspan is equal to his height in shoes, 6'7".
     
  19. Egghead

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    not all NBA players have athleticism Chase has......
     
  20. Egghead

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    Also, you must be kidding when you say athleticism is not his asset... if he wasn't athletic he probably would have went undrafted...

    from espn.com-

    Chase Budinger

    - Super-explosive swingman
    - Deep 3-point range
    - Scorer's mentality, always looking for his shot
    - Solid rebounder for a guard because of his leaping ability.
     
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