BREAKING NEWS: Michael Jackson rushed to hospital with a serious heart attack

SO SAD.

 

Funny you say that, because I think MJ is most comparable to Sinatra in terms of longevity.

 

Madonna has been pretty good at keeping herself relevant for quite some time.

 

I still don't see how any of you can put Dylan in the same category as Elvis, The Beatles and MJ. He was a big influence in his time, but certainly did have a mass crossover appeal.

Dylan only sold 35 million albums in his career (in the US). That's nothing to sneeze at, but certainly doesn't put him in the same category as those above. One list I found shows Mariah Carey has sold 58 million albums in the US before her last album in 2005. She's sold 178 million worldwide.

Here's a list of Dylan facts:

http://www.classic-rock-legends-start-here.com/bob-dylan-discography.html

 

You must be on drugs. A significant portion of the US wouldn't recognize an Elvis song??

 

I am from China ,Michael Jackson is the most famous here, people don't know Elvis,don't know Bob Dylan.Well ,some of them may know a little about the Beatles but we all know the King of POP. we know his dance, we know his song, He brings a huge impact on several generations in China.
If you check China mainstream medias like websites and newspapers,you can see all the front pages are occupied by his death news and also more and more people spontaneously gather together and make commemorations for him . This has been lasting for a couple of days.
if taking the "spontaneously activity" into account, none of any other celebrity got this kind of treatment before,even including the previous leader of China.
sorry for my poor English ,I just hope you guys can understand what I mean and can realize how big influence Michael has got in China .

 

So, my understanding is if this were a normal heart attack involving clotting, the initial autopsy would have been able to identify that is what occurred before toxicology even came out. The fact that they didn't find that obviously leads one to look at his med interaction and/or an overdose. It's sad that so many people, including his close family, knew he was on these meds like Demerol, Morphine, and OxyContin. Yet, they were unable to do anything about. It also makes me wonder if it didn't go from treatment for pain to just being an addict with pain as back excuse (i.e. tolerable pain). I also think it's obvious there is this very sad connection between being a celebrity and being able to get prescription meds at will...moreso than the average person. I know the average person can get some of these meds some of the time...but celebs can get anything all of the time.

I guess we wait and see the toxicology report but I would be completely shocked if it comes back saying none of the drugs in his system killed him and it was something else. That said...I don't think this is the end of celeb prescription drug deaths. It's obvious that there are no lessons learned in the deaths of these celebs. They are going to do what they are going to do regardless.

 

I Am Love - Jam from 1975...classic 70's pre disco sound. Michael has just a brief solo, but it sends a chill down my spine. The 7 minute album version is much better. Cool seeing a VERY young Janet and Cher too:

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No kidding. That's an idiotic statement.
Love Me Tender
Viva Las Vegas (you'd know it just from the recent Viagra commercial... sheesh)
too many others to list

 

You guys has to watch this.

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[Cnn]The possibility that Michael Jackson was taking medication that could have contributed to his death at age 50 weighs heavily on people close to the star.

In 2005, after he was cleared on charges of child molestation, Jackson spent a week at a center run by Dr. Deepak Chopra, a physician who focuses on spirituality and the mind-body connection.

During that week, the pop star asked Chopra for a prescription for a narcotic, the doctor told CNN.

"I said, 'What the heck do you want a narcotic prescription for?'" Chopra said. "And it suddenly dawned on me that he was probably taking these and that he had probably a number of doctors who were giving him these prescriptions, so I confronted him with that. At first, he denied it. Then, he said he was in a lot of pain."

Chopra said he told Jackson that there were plenty of other ways to handle his pain, but that Jackson was not convinced.

He blamed Jackson's death on drug abuse, though he offered no direct evidence.

"When you have enough drugs in your system, your heart goes into an arrhythmia and your respiration stops," he said. "I think the drugs killed him."

Brian Oxman, a former lawyer for the Jackson family who was in the emergency room Thursday, also expressed concern about medications the pop star was taking.

 

oh, you guys are still arguing subjective merits of music and society...

Pay the man his respect and let society judge him over time. He was an iconic and influential Pop Star whose death we will all remember, a la Diana, Lennon, Elvis, JFK, JFk Jr., etc...

 

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Is Madonna popular like MJ was?

I dunno if she would get this much attention if she died today.

 

Don't know how you can say that about Elvis and then in the same breath imply that Dylan songs would be as recognizable as Beatles and MJ songs.
In fact I think Elvis songs would be more recognizable to a significant portion of the US than Beatles songs. I bet you can go into most "Hoods" and people would recognize Elvis songs and not The Beatles songs.

Dylan is not on the same level as Elvis, MJ and The Beatles-Worldwide!

 

Elvis or the Beattles and certainly Bob Dylan

didn't inspire the world to DANCE
I don't see any little chinese kids dancing to Bob Dylan

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i think about the same. and i think she would be about the only other pop star that would.

 

Thank-you. I don't see why this has been largely ignored in the conversaton thus far.

Dylan, Beetles, Elvis... Yes, their music was similarly influential, even if they didn't enjoy the same level of international popularity as Michael (yes, the "3rd world" counts too), but none of them were even in the same stratosphere when it came to the moves. That it what really put Mike over the top and was likely as big a reason for his fame than anything else.

I mean, he had the musical talent, lyrical skills, damn sure had a more impressive vocal range than any of the aforementioned, and he could dance his ass off.

Why dancing component gets ignored so often in these types of musical discussions is beyond me. It is a fundamental form of musical and rhythmic expression. What Michael contributed to music videos and choreographed and hip-hop dancing revolutionized those fields.

 

It's funny you should mention this because it was Elvis' dancing that arguably initially made him famous back in the day. Is he as good a dancer as MJ? No, but for the time he was revolutionary - every bit as much as MJ.