If we were a developing team like the Wolves then fine, let him grow. But there is no way we should lose an established piece of our roster for the POSSIBILITY of his nba development. The nba game is so much faster than what he is used to, there is no way he will be ready in the nxt 2 yrs to do anything.
i wasn't implying the he should be jacked, i dont expect him to be or for him to want to be or any other ball player... what gyms are you going to? you won't see many 6'11 players like him around, but if you were to shrink him down proportionately to 6'0, he'd blend in with several of the other gym rats. As a whole he looks monstrous, but that's because of his height, length, and overall frame, if you look at his individual muscles they aren't that large. Look at his biceps, forearms, chest, back, etc. His shoulders are the only muscle group that's larger than the average 6'11 guy. cover up his shoulders on any picture and you'll see what difference it makes.. his arms look big because his bone structure is large, his muscle tissue is large/longer as well because of that, but look at the actual pump of the muscle, it's significant, but not above average or "jacked"... Now Zo on the other hand: and i realize they dont have the same "pose", but if you find a picture where they both have the same pose youll still see the difference..
i know what youre saying, but the argument "take away this and that and ignore that other thing and he's pretty normal" kind of doesnt sit right to me. There are plenty of big guys in the NBA, and very few of them look like Dwight. Also keep in mind Dwight is still quite young. Go find a picture of Zo at that age and he was very different looking. Even David Robinson, Ben Wallace, Ben Gordon, Derek Fisher, and a bunch of the other guys who you'd kinda put in the "looks like a beast" category were not as physically developed so early in their careers. Don't get me wrong, I definitely understand where you are coming from. I think maybe you're a little off on making that comparison. Also, I know i dont need to say this, but what a person's body looks like depends entirely on the type of training they do. While most people go in the gym and do the traditional bench/curl/military type of machine or bench work, I'm a believer in the value of more functional training. Over the course of the time i've been into that stuff, I've learned that most people who are really functionally strong don't look like it. I think basketball is a sport that would require more functional strength than gym strength anyway, so rarely do i look at how pumped a guy is and think it makes him a better basketball player. just more intimidating, and usually slower
forgive me for posting a hoopsworld article, but there are direct quotes from morey in it. i thought it was worth sharing... written by fran blindbury too. sorry http://www.***************/Story.asp?story_id=13097
Not to pick you out of a crowd. THis is directed at all the know it alls. I love all these people that say he cant do this, he cant do that, he's all hype. At 6'5" and just 18 years old he has 2 or 3 more years to grow and already has the uncanny ability to be condsidered one of the better passers to come around in the last decade and he has already played 2 years at the highest level overseas, played in the Olympics and has some of the best players in the world not to mention D Morey and many other GM's drooling over his potential yet the detractors think after watching a 1 minute youtube highlight they know better. I have a question for all you people that keep saying he isnt worth going after. Are you a better judge of talent than Morey?
what? stay over seas more for what? he has been playing professionally overseas for 4 yrs now. he is ready to take on the nba. i say let him compete with landry/ab from day 1 and let the best PG lead the team. besides, we are already stashing llull overseas.
I think I am a better judge of talent than alot og GM's in the league. But definitely not Morey. I like Rubio he is an amazing passer and can definitely get to the basket and make dcisions but what scares me is he looks so frail and I worry if that will ever change. Can he really guard the likes of Deron, Cpaul or even our own Brooks. I don't know but if Morey thinks so than I will have faith. In Morey I trust.
That is a good point, and I highly doubt I am a better judge of players than Morey. I would really like to know the answer to my question though. I think DM is a great judge of players ability but you cant deny that there is a wirlwind of hype surrounding this guy that may be overshadowing reality. I mean look at a player like Mills who got drafted early 2nd round this yr. He nearly beat the US by himself when he played against us in the preliminary round. He goes back to college and continues to play extremely well but falls off the radar. there are so many players with talent it is impossible to see them all, with Rubio at the center of attention he obviously can ball but is he Leaps and bounds better than every1 one else... thats what I doubt and what remains to be seen
If the rox trade for rubio, they might as well trade Yao and Battier and start over. I'm never the one to say build around Yao, but rubio is a square peg in what adelman wants to do. He's a slow footed, no post game, poor shooting, ball dominating pg. Its one thing to have good size for your position, its another to be slow,weak, and can't shoot. Its just like when battier is being gaurded by andre miller or ben gordon. What's the point of have a guy that has a huge height adv over the guy guarding him if he can't punish that guy? Big guards like williams,kidd,payton,chauncey, and guys of that ilk punishes smaller guys in the post or are just so strong they can power into the lane. On the perimeter, there isn't a remote chance he can stay iin front of the smaller quicker guards. Not to mention he can't shoot at all!
i don't think he is comparing rubio to kobe skill wise, but possible super star talent. as good as lebron is right now, kobe is still 1 step ahead of him (maybe not for long) but rubio has a ton of potential and he can indeed develop into that star talent many believe he is poised to be. now whether that will be in 2-4 yrs is yet to be known, but getting rubio will put make this franchise into the meca level of bball citys as la and nyc imo. this kid along with yao is an marketer's dream.
i get it, my rant is mostly aimed at those who see dwight as being jacked right now, the term jacked, as well as ripped and shredded, is often misused, especially by the younger kids or people who aren't familiar with the terms and hear it from others. Being in the fitness field it irks me when people act like the slightest appearance of an ab is being "shredded", or when a skinny guy who naturally has low body fat does a few push ups and now he's "ripped"......jacked is another term that gets thrown around like that. I didnt mean Dwight's current physique is comparable to the average male his age, he definitely is more built than the average guy, but i still dont think he's jacked.....that comparison was just to show the difference in muscle mass between two guys who are actually of the same frame/height. I agree that you dont need to be visibly big to be strong, and i do believe Dwight is stronger than he appears, but when i hear he's "jacked" i thinkof appearance, at least thats how the term usually is used.
i think what you're referring to is something i run into pretty frequently as well. its the difference between the person's appearance/strength/capability as they would be with a normal life versus those same qualities given a certain strength & fitness regimen. by looking at it that way youre trying to assess the value of the training. this is a very "fitness profession" thing to do though, and isnt the way most people look at things. they see that his shoulder muscles are bigger than his head and assume he's a workout warrior. hang around this bbs and look at all the things that are said about the rockets training staff, and most of it is just as off-target. not very many people get deep enough into the field of health and fitness to be able to understand a professional athlete's needs. you just gotta turn off that part of your brain when you're out of that environment, otherwise you could go crazy trying to set people straight. its hard enough doing that just about basketball here. haha.
