I've been making the same point in this thread , but there's so much that's brilliant in this article by Andrew Shearer, national security adviser to former Australian PM John Howard, that it really deserves a thread of its own . [rquoter]Iran: Obama, the great equivocator By Andrew Shearer - 26 June 2009 12:05PM Barack Obama came to office full of lofty rhetoric and promises to restore American leadership. As street protests begin to peter out, ground into Tehran’s pavements by thugs unleashed by its authoritarian Islamist regime, it is becoming clear that he has failed his first major foreign policy test. When young Iranians took to the streets spontaneously to express their outrage at an election that had obviously been stolen (rather than just rigged around the edges as usual), the great orator seemed tongue-tied. His sentences – usually so rich and sonorous – were carefully parsed, spare with caution and respect for Iran’s sovereignty. The great communicator had become the great equivocator. It took global revulsion at Youtube footage of a young Iranian woman bleeding to death in the street before he expressed appropriate outrage – almost a week late. But even when he acknowledged her death was ‘heartbreaking’, Obama’s language was bizarrely legalistic and went to awkward lengths to avoid sheeting home responsibility to the regime: Neda Agha Soltan’s death was ‘unjust’, he eventually intoned. Unjust? Arbitrary arrest or a fine would have been ‘unjust’. Her death was a cold-blooded, brutal, appalling murder by an illegitimate government and should have been denounced in those terms, as should the previous extrajudicial killings. Meanwhile, Administration aides had been busy explaining to a credulous media that this was all part of a calculated strategy. If America spoke out, the regime would use that to deflect popular ire onto the ‘Great Satan’. And it might jeopardise the chances of a deal to stop Tehran’s rush to acquire nuclear weapons. Better to let Europe – ever a strong reed in dealings with Iran – take the lead. Subtle, sophisticated – everything that Bush’s clumsy diplomacy wasn’t. Right? Wrong, actually. America certainly isn’t perfect, but throughout much of its history dissidents around the world have looked to the US as a source of hope and inspiration. The outcome may not have been different had Obama promptly denounced the election result, expressed outrage at the human rights abuses and made his diplomatic olive branch conditional on the regime showing at least minimal respect for the rights of Iran’s people and the rule of law. But it might have been. And at least the US response would have been in keeping with its longstanding values and idealism. Now we are left with the worst of all worlds. The protestors have largely been forced off the streets, and hard-line elements have been strengthened, at least for now. A deal on Iran’s nuclear weapons programs – never likely in the first place – is more out of reach than ever. The impression that the Obama Administration is quietly walking away from the democracy agenda in favour of reaching accommodations with unsavoury regimes has been reinforced. American leadership can only be diminished if that is the case. Oh, and guess what: the regime is blaming the Great Satan, notwithstanding Obama’s careful circumlocutions. Not a good week, Mr President. Let’s have a bit less try-hard realism and a bit more liberal internationalism.[/rquoter]
I've been acting like a jackass in one thread, so I decided that my jackassery y deserves it's own thread! When Gondor calls, will Obama answer?
Can someone create a posting bot that replies to every Iran thread with "we overthrew their democratically elected leader and installed a brutal autocrat in his place"
So the national security advisor of the prime minister that got booted out of office a few years back in part for supporting Bush too much has a position different from Obama? Shocking! I think we already knew the Obama team has different views on foreign policy than the Bush view.
That's true, but I only learned it after 37,482 basso threads about how everything Obama says, does, wears or breathes is completely wrong. Maybe basso-can-you-go will begin to create new threads for each paragraph of his favorite web swill!
There are many posters who are against Obama, but Basso is something else. What would he do if Obama wins in 2012?
The important people, yes. Views of administrations that were booted out of office because people didn't like their views, not so much.
in this instance, are the Iranians themselves important? if so, who is more important, the protesters, and the guv'mint?
Right, because denouncing the Iranians with fire and brimstone will really do that much besides provoking an already antagonistic regime. Oh well, Obama has already succumbed to your deepest desires, so maybe now you'll have to find a way to backtrack and correct your position so that you can criticize Obama on this change. http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/06/26/g8-iran-violence062609.html