Trade him? haha, the question is not you wanna keep him or not, but Yao wants to leave or not. If he wants, he will be welcomed by any other team, even if Orlando.
BIG Z can only play for 30 mins per match. Our focus is to find a back-up C for Yao, not a BACK-UP C to replace him...
And the amount of $$$ Les has made since 2002 is his business secret, why the hell would he just let YOU know????
I can't believe this thread has 11 pages and counting... Trade Yao and we are going to be the team to beat ......................................................NOT
I think you *might* want to double-check your facts there. Start here ( http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#Q8 )and read down. It describes what BRI is and how it is divided equally. You need to get a full overview of how the cap is determined and what role BRI plays in determining the finances of each team. One part you may want to take note of is that the Rockets only receive a portion of the profits from the arena signage, luxury suites and arena naming rights...some have tried to claim that the arena signs(ads) for chinese companies and the deal with Toyota are direct profit to Les...but that is only partially true. the part I bolded is the relavent part. How much money Yao makes for Less OUTSIDE of the team structure is of no concern when talking about if he is moved for the sake of the team, yet that very reason is often used in an attempt to shoot down any suggestions of trading Yao. If the Rockets braintrust(Morey and Co) determine that moving Yao for X player would be in the best interests of achieving their goal of a ring, how much money Yao helps him put in his personal portfolio isnt likely to be enough for him to deny them. Les has made it clear that he will give Morey anything he wants as long as he is convinced they are headed to a Championship. I want to make myself clear... I am NOT advocating a trade...just tryin to clarify whether or not this is indeed a myth as it appears to be, too many people have used it as undeniable truth based on flimsy evidence and supposition.
both of which have NOTHING to do with what I am talking about and what the OP mentions in his post. read the post above to understand where I am coming from, I aint typing it out twice.
I'm with you, Yao sucks so much that he has great trade value If Yao brought nothing to Houston the past couple of year, what makes you think any other team would expect more. Yao sucks, no one would want him, therefore he's stuck in Houston. Live with it
Why trade Yao when he is the focal point of the team. He is the reason why the rest of the players get such open shots. Do you really think that a team led by Brooks and Artest can make the PO. The only way you trade Yao is for a player that has the same impact on the floor as he does.
The Rockets are not a publicly traded company so we do not have access to their balance sheets. We've heard various rumblings from reporters and people associated around the league that Yao is a "cash cow". But we have no hard evidence to look at and as Rocket2k pointed out, the revenue sharing makes that theory harder to prove; i.e. you can't look at the Chinese billboards around the arena as proof that Les is raking it in because that money is shared. The only proof we have that Yao is a 'cash cow' is that Les has spent to the luxury tax limit the last few years, you can say beyond the limit with all the pick buying that we've been doing. We have been buyers in this draft and previous drafts. What that means is that Les is doing pretty good financially with the team and is willing to reinvest in the product, or Les just cares about winning so much that he's willing to take the loss to his wallet. Les is a good owner and a rich man, no doubt about that, but he's not Paul Allen, he's not so rich that he doesn't care how much he loses. I'm going to conclude that Les is doing well financially with this team. Why are the Rockets doing well financially? Houston is not a big market: ticket prices are cheap compared to LA, NY, Boston, Chicago, etc.; the rockets do not own their own TV network, and the team hasn't advanced far into the playoffs in any single year (extra home playoff games mean more revenue). At this time of economic strife, the Rockets are among a handful of teams that are 'buyers'. The other teams that are buyers include New York and Portland, teams with rich owners. Here is what the owner of the Memphis Grizzlies said on April 8th, 2008, before the crisis hit: I'm going to trust Heisley's estimate here because well, he talks to all the other owners and understands the business better than you and I. So I'll make the following leap in judgement: you will lose money in the NBA if you are around the luxury tax line unless you are a big market team or have been having great playoff success. For example, I think the Spurs are a break even team, they are right around the luxury tax line and have been deep in the playoffs until recently and they break even because of their playoff revenue. I think the Mavs are losing money but Cuban doesn't care. and I think the Rockets have been doing better than the Spurs even though we have had considerably less playoff success. The only reason I can think of that the Rockets are doing well compared to other teams is that they have Yao Ming. That is my reasoning that Yao is a 'cash cow'.
I think the simplest way to explain is this fact. Les has declared Yao untradable. Why? Look at any other player. No other player gets the special treatment that Yao does. Every other player Morey has been ambigious in terms of whether or not they're available. Everyone BUT Yao. To the point where no other GM even calls the Rockets for Yao. For someone as shrewd as Morey, why would he do that? It's pretty obvious to everyone that Yao's on-court performance doesn't demand such special treatment. On the court, he's not even a top 10 player. And certainly not nearly the caliber of "untouchable" players like Kobe, Lebron, Paul, or Wade. I'm not a businessman, but if what you're saying is correct, then Les will not make any less money when all the Chinese sponsors(plus maybe Toyota) pull their ads out of the Toyota Center and Rockets broadcasts. But this to me defies common logic. What incentive would teams even have to try to pull sponsorships and ad revenue in the first place when they only get 1/30 of the profit? I added that paragraph because I figured that's what you're concentrating on. Yet I can't see it being relevant. In the end, the Rockets are a private business and Les is a businessman. I don't see why such outside earnings won't affect how he treats Yao. If Yao, for example, is making him 10 mil extra revenue, then that's an extra 10 mil the Rockets can spend on players without affecting the bottom line. That, in essence, make Yao more valuable than just his on-court performance.
Don't blame Yao for your ignorance. He is a great player, and a great athlete. Not only does he bring in money for the Rockets organization, he's a LEADER and a true humanitarian. He truly represents the face of the Rockets organization. I do agree that he is not a closer and the TMac, Yao experiment has failed. But if one must go between the two, TMac has to go. Trading away both of them will be chaos. We won't get anyone nearly as good as them and suddenly the leadership of the team is clearly gone. We will have traded away the team for basically nothing if this was to occur. I know I won't be interested in the Rockets if the both of them get traded for players with less than superstar-caliber potential. I'm not a huge Yao fan, but give respect and honor to those who deserve it. Yao Ming might be one of the only reasons why the Rockets have an edge at trades for this offseason. Yao also have contributed as a player to win many games for the Rockets. By the way, Yao is better than Dwight Howard. I bet you'd trade away Dwight Howard too, right?
If the day came where we could trade Yao for Dwight Howard, Lebron, Kevin Durant...I will personally pack Yao's stuff and march him out.... But honestly what are our chances of getting those players? I just don't see it happening.
where's this guy come from? Does he just wake up for iced? Come on, we just made a huge step in the playoffs. Even you want to trade yao, wait for the big 2010!!!
money wise...its a no brainer to keep yao...ads, company tides, partnerships...a lot of stuff goes on not just the seating at toyota center. and skills wise no center is better than yao, besides duncan if u count him as a center. Yao is the 2nd best center in the NBA enough said Ps. its harder to find a good center than a good guard....good guards come every year...good skilled big men come every 6-10 years.
I can't believe this thread is still going on. Look, it's very simple. Yao shouldn't be untradeable. If the offers are right, we should definately listen. However, now is not the time to jump ship and rebuild. Let's finish the Yao experiment and contend for another year since we made progress last season. People tend to overlook what we accomplished last season but it took us over a decade to do it. If the Yao experiment fails, then we should look towards a sign and trade after he opts out. NOW IS NOT THE TIME.
