Are you somehow seriously still contesting that Yao isn't in decline, even after the most recent injury revelation? Seriously? You could give the former Iraqi Information Minister a run for his money.
I don't think there is any reason to panic. I'm pretty sure the original diagnosis had his time to heal at around 6-8 weeks we're just slightly beyond that and that's newsworthy, but he still has plenty of time to be patient instead of being reduced to surgury or anything else that would prolong his recovery. We are going to have to limit his minutes an playing time this season no matter what. So if he has to take the first couple of months off to get his stamina back its fine. We might as well start getting used to the idea of playing without him.
This pretty much sums up my feelings on this. Let's assume it heals up before training camp. The chance he has another foot injury during the coming season is very high. What a shame. Yao is a great guy, but maybe the Rockets shouldn't be so adamant about not entertaining offers for him.
ya and our GM said he was on a decline. Injury Prone yes, "Clearly Decline" lol no. Big Z had his best years after being Injury Prone. Lets not even mention Bill Walton, the world of medicine is vastly improved. If he was playing today, his career would of lasted longer. Another example of improved medical procedures, back than Microfractury Surgey was the end, today we have stars coming back and performing at 90%. See Amare, Jason Kidd, etc. I guess in your own little world "Clearly Decline" means injury prone, than you are correct.
Yes, it would be a bummer, regardless, but I really like Yao. This really bums me out. If he ends up needing surgery, we'll be lucky to have him by the playoffs. And I'm tired of the drama.
The only way Yao would stop being injury-prone is by trading him to Phoenix. Or we steal their medical staff and bring them to Houston.
I have no issues with him being labeled injury prone. He is what he is. We either get a good offer or not. But trading him for trash won't help. I still think he has 2-3 years of good to great years left. Get a wing and a backup Center, with some luck, maybe we might even see the finals. However the spurs are little more dangerous, Mavs are looking to do something, we got the Lakers still, Portland is dangerous, Denver is a different team with Chauncy. I still have hope the big guy will last long enough.....Its not like we are lottery bound team, we are right there top 8 team in the league. Its a shame some folks want to shoot "Hope" down.
Yao is so fragile. This happens to him every year. After this injury gets better, by next season around March or April, he will have another type of fracture again. I know Yao is very valuable to this team. The main reason why he is so important to the Rockets is just because the money he brings in. But if he didnt bring any money in, most likely he would be traded seasons ago. I know centers are hard to come by now but if this type of injury keep on coming back, the Rockets must take actions about it. We cannot afford for Yao to keep having injuries like this one and keep saying well maybe next season he would be healthy and we can finally contend for the championship. Our window of opportunity is about to be shut if we don't do anything. I'm just afraid that we will lose it all and have to rebuild all over again.
IMO anyone who thinks Yao is not going to get injured next season is dellusional. Its going to happen....Id just as soon get rid of him and tough it out till we can land a big man whos not going to be injury prone.
Right, because general managers are accustomed to divulging the real value of their assets. I guess all of that fluff Morey has been feeding us regarding Tracy's value to this team is legitimate too, huh? Injury prone? That's like saying he is "kind of tall." If you can't comprehend the connection between a progressive trend of recent injuries to the feet of a man his size to an imminent decline, I have to merely assume that you are being willfully obtuse. Since when is the exception to the rule sufficient in disproving the rule? Bill Walton is the poster-boy for the counter-argument to your claim. As far as your second statement, I have no idea how such a speculatory premise is probative with regard to your claim about Yao. Hey, if Hakeem was playing today, he would dominate the weak centers in the league! I guess that means Yao will dominate too! Logical incoherency is fun. I fail to see how the fact that medical procedures are improved is inconsistent with a claim regarding Yao's decline. You are raising the "possibility" of fixing something that I am pointing out is clearly on the decline. How is that inconsistent?? I never ruled out such a possibility. Yes, in my world where those of us like to bask in our above-high school level english proficiency, a continued trend of injuries to the same region usually would indicate an imminent decline.
Huh??? No one here advocated "trading him for trash." The discussion is with regards to actually entertaining the option of trading him if the right deal came along (as opposed to rigorously opposing any deals on the strength of his financial values to the team). As far as "shooting hope down", continuing to pin the aforementioned hope on Yao every year and expecting a different result is borderline masochism. You don't build a team around hoping for health. The odds are already stacked against you as it is in a league with 30 teams.
I know the Rockets are probably going to offer him the max next year but I wouldn't. He is too injury-prone and we can't keep having injuries every single year. It puts us in a bind and we can't succeed in this position. I know Yao is huge for Les in terms of revenue but due to the salary cap we can't have him if it meant we could get healthy bodies who can contribute with Yao's salary.
It seems Yao doesn't know his own body well. Why did he go back china and traveled a lot? Not just this time. I think he should learn from Shaq. Shaq knows his own body well, and takes rest when he needs.
if yao is injured again next year, les will NOT offer him the max unless yao gives him money out of his own pocket. and no other team will offer him the max unless they're looking for some international exposure. i think yao has about 2 years left in the NBA.
The question was poised on Yao's stats being lower, when Morey talked about him having his best years. I guess we shouldn't trust Morey, I guess we shouldn't trust basketball statistics sites http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/mingya01.html Plenty of stats that show he is on Par, slighly worse but in essence the same player despite his limitations with injury. Once again you say "clearly Defined", injury prone sure statistical he is on PAR and isn't showing a decline. Excuse me I never said he wasn't injury prone, I said i don't associate "Clearly Decline" as injury prone when Statistically he provides the same numbers. No I am saying combined with medical technology, Yao isn't a lost cause. I know he has body limitations, without today's medical technology, he would of be retired by now. I am not suggesting a fix. I am saying people do come back from injuries. What is wrong with hoping, thinking 100% he is not injury prone is different than "Hoping" he will be healthy is totally different. I am not in denial of his injuries, but I refuse to think he will be injured next year. He has a greater chance, but i am not a fortune teller and I don't make predictions. You can....... Nah there are some who think, because I been here longer, I am better. Just like the ones who keep thinking English is the dominate language for the internet and everybody needs proper English Grammar. If he plays a full year next year, i hope you and others eat crow. I won't cheer or point things out. However I seen plenty of posters who say Player A won't lead us out of the 1st round (we went from 1st round to winning a championship), he won't last the Regular season (which is now turned into Regular Season + Playoffs).
From the article I linked to: [rquoter]A bone scan conducted Wednesday night revealed the fracture had not healed. The team now says no timeline is set for Yao's return to basketball activities, though Clanton said Yao is experiencing no pain in his foot. "Unfortunately Yao's foot hasn't healed the way we had hoped at this point and our next step is to consider what we can do to get Yao ready for the start of next season," Yao's agent, John Huizinga, told KRIV-TV in Houston. "Obviously he is disappointed."[/rquoter]
News Flash, the team is already built around Yao, did you get the memo? Clearly you had no history lesson. when the Jews were being slaughtered by Hitler, I am sure many of them "Hoped" for a savior. When Blacks wanted Freedom, they had "Hope" they would be free. It happened. You don't give up "Hope" because a player suffered injury you as a "Fan" can't make trades or decisions for the team. The best thing we can do is cheer and "Hope" for the best. What is wrong with knowing "Yao won't be traded" and hoping he is injury free so the Rockets can win a championship. Tell me how am I wrong in my thinking.
I give up. I have no idea why you keep referencing his statistics as if his on-court effectiveness is the subject of discussion. For the last time, we are talking about his injury concerns. If he isn't even on the court, it doesn't matter what stats he is accumulating when on it. This isn't rocket science at all.
