On second thought, Yao might slay Griffin next season ,if we don't make that trade. i admit that im a Yao fan
I can't believe there are still people voting for Griffin. The guy is good but anyone expecting him to be a game changer offensively, needs to see the eye doctor because their talent perception is way off. There is a strong probability that he won't even be Rookie of the Year next season as well.
Explain to me what he does not do well at the 4 spot, please. I've watched plenty of Griffin and can say unequivocally that he: 1). Is adept on either low post block coming with a jump hook 2). Has excellent footwork for such a young post player 3). Posts to contact. In other words, he does shy away from contact but, rather, uses it to go into his move across the middle or 4). Has a step back jumper from the low left block off the glass. 5). Has an excellent vertical 6) Has the form to develop into a good shooter from 15 What about those does not translate into the nba? As for those saying he won't be as good as Beasley (wtf?)., you have lost your collective minds. Griffin has the length, athleticism, and aggressiveness that limit Beasley. Beasley=Derrick Coleman, complete with the initial immaturity. Griffin is VERY mature in his demeanor and is the antithesis of Beasley. Whereas Beasley would prefer to pull up for a 15 footer, Griffin would rather rub off his defender and get the "and 1" via jump hook or thunderous dunk. Griffin is 6'11, talented, aggressive, and if we have ANY opportunity to get him we'd be fools not to do it. Just as I spotted Adrian Peterson as HOF talent (and was criticized), I'm telling you the same about Griffin. He is HOF talent in waiting and a 20-10 player from year one.
i dont want to get shorter as its. Unless its like a package yao for camby and griffin which is unlikely.
i agree , but why would we do this? the rocket are pretty short as it, and we got a good starting pf in scola, unless Griffin grew to 7 feet and play center, no way.
Didn't you answer this question in your own preceeding post?? The trade would involve us getting camby as well as griffin. As for our current PFs, we'd then be in position to move either of Scolandry for a backup C or wing player.
Funny I swore College ball isn't NBA level. If that were the case All top 10 draft picks would succeed. However this isn't NBA2k9, Griffen is going to have to actually play in the NBA before you can translate everything above to NBA basketball. Odds are in favor for people picking him as a bust or not meeting your standards. Trade a big men who may be injury prone for an unproven Rookie is too much. Let's not even talk about Camby, I swear he misses more games than Yao.
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Blake-Griffin-1268/ if people look at the link. Griffen might already have bad knees listed as a weakness, along with a poor go to guy for scoring, with poor defense. Got tons of upside, but we really need to stay away from players who may be injury prone, we all ready got 3.
First, you can't even spell his name correctly, so it's hard for me to take your assessment seriously. Second, every college player has the stigma of never having played in the nba. You never spoke specifically as to what you felt would not translate. I guessing that's because you haven't watched enough of him to make an educated judgement. Again, you couldn't even get the name right. Third, you postulate that he's injury prone (as is Yao) therefore we shouldn't trade for him. Tell me again how many games he missed? And how many has Yao missed? How many games will Yao play next year? Over/under? 60? Coming off of years of lower extremity injuries?? Fourth, let me ask you a question: do you seriously believe it's intelligent to build around a proven injury prone, easily neutralized center who is approaching the backside of his career agewise? Fifth, what do you think Yao's trade value will be when gets injured again next season? Sixth, you do realize Yao has refused an extension twice already, right? How confident are you that he will not only re-sign, but be worth the max contract he would get? Keep in mind he's been injured FOUR consecutive years. Seventh, if you don't like Griffin, whom do you think we could obtain in this current climate, for Yao (with one year left on his contract) if we were to look at moving him? Eighth, you do know you elbowed Ron Artest, right?
I'm sorry... Ninth, how do you evaluate Griffin as a poor go to guy for scoring when he had NO help offensively on his team and was facing not only a zone, but constant triple teams and STILL managed to put up 20+/10+??? Tenth, show me a college player that meets your criteria as being worth an injury prone center that is so easily negated by fronting defenses..
Um, no. Brand is the last player to do it. There have been many players average 20 and 10 as rookies, mostly before rookies were 18 and 19 year olds. Watched the league long? I don't hate Yao, I hate only winning a first round series every 15 years. Something you as a Yao fan wouldn't know anything about because you didn't even know the Rockets existed until they drafted Yao. I also hate having an injury prone franchise superstar center who really isn't a franchise player or a superstar and is so unathletic that he's easily neutralized by particular defensive tactics.
First thing, you do understand in my previous post I spelled his name correctly. To attack me on that tells me you are obviously a Fan of Griffin who is blinded. Second I didn't say he wad injury prone, if you read the link it says he might have bad knee's. I can't wast my time answering somebody's post if they think mis-spelling a name is an issue. Everybody can mis-type, have poor grammar, etc. Just look at your own post. It also doesn't help, you think I said he was injury prone, this came from the link. Griffin has more if a chance to bust than make it's. It's the NBA odds, sorry.
The hardest working big man in the league? Is this how you define Yao besides injury-pron? Off-the-chart skill set is ability. Hard-working is attitude. You just lose your patience about Yao and want him to be traded. Have some nerve and to say it directly.
Can you enlighten me on the past 20-10 players in there 1st year? I am really curious how many out of the last 15 years in the draft. In regards to 20 points and 10 rebounds. Is there a link out there our is it one of those lines where I have to believe until I look for myself. Can you just list the 10 past rookies who managed 20-10? Shaq Admiral? Have to look it up. Duncan? Have to look it up. So folks are saying Griffin is as good as the people above. If that's what people are saying sign me up and trade Yao.
He will be an effective player. Hands down Rookie of the year but I doubt He will average 20 pts and 10 rebounds. Not even on his second year would he average 20-10.
I would do it. Griffin might not be a beast in the NBA, but Yao has shown us that his health is becoming more of an issue with his age...you don't win when the player that anchors your team is probably going to be out for extended periods of time during the year (and usually at the end as he wears down throughout the season). I love what Yao gives us, he's automatic when he can get the ball in the post and is getting a lot better at finding the open man. His defense is great even though it's not mentioned a lot, good (not great) rebounding, great work ethic and 'locker room guy'...but he's too-damn-big. He's a walking injury waiting to happen and he's proving that to us year after year. All his positives don't mean diddle if he can't play...and it'll only get worse as he gets older . Still, there is no way in hell this would happen...
