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Cato...what will we do with him?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by HonestAbe, Jun 12, 2002.

  1. TedRuxpin

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    <p> I'd take Haywood over Cato any day. Several times Haywood led the Wizards in boards last year. He had several 15+ games. He filled in nicely for the Wiz when Popeye Jones and C Parks both went down with injuries. Haywood is a hard worker from a solid NCAA program. He is a backup and still produces more consistent numbers than Cato.

    <p> The main problem is Cato's contract. It is so long and large (7m/yr) that he is hard to move
     
  2. hpscc

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    As opposed to some posts, which are short and silly.
     
  3. hpscc

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    This trade makes alot of sense - if the Bulls draft Jay Williams and start him, Crawford, and Rose, Hassell can come off the bench at SG/SF. We need a competent defensive presence though at PF and C behind Curry and Chandler.

    E-Rob gives the Rockets a SF who at 6'9 is extremely athletic and trading Cato will keep him from getting minutes at the PF spot in place of Maurice Taylor and Kenny Thomas.
     
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  4. RIET

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    Of course I was being facetious.

    I mean hell, why even keep Ming when we've been offered the Bulls #1, Eddy Curry, Lamar Odom, and Elton Brand.

    We all know that Krause is a blubbering idiot and everyone else is incredibly desperate for J Williams that they'll trade 1/2 their team. It's just up to us to exploit that.

    I mean, it's just so easy. Krause will do it, he'll do anything :rolleyes:
     
  5. bigboymumu

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    Man, we will have a very good 1-2 punch. If one does not match up well with one team, the other can be brought in. Cato is a luxury that alot of team that are interested in competing with Lakers would welcome. WE ARE ON OUR WAY!
     
  6. hpscc

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    Yeah, Krause has really done a bad job of assembling a team with alot of young talent. Look at the idiotic Tyson Chandler for Brand move last year. Bulls get a better player, and get draft position to get Jay Willams. Really bad move there. :rolleyes:
     
  7. Will

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    Fouls #7-12 on Shaq.
     
  8. BimaThug

    BimaThug Resident Capologist
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    Cato will be our opening day starter at center. It will take Ming awhile to get adjusted to the NBA game. Look at Olowakandi (the #1 overall pick) in 1998-99. He didn't move into the starting lineup until the midway point of that season. Ming will sit and learn from the bench for awhile, then eventually attempt the transition into the starting lineup. Cato will still play at least 20 minutes per game.

    And another thing. People often throw out numbers like "he should give us 8 ppg and 10 rpg." But very few players in the NBA can actually average 10 rebounds per game. Shaq, Duncan, B.Wallace, Nowitzki, Webber, KG, Mutombo, and Brand are about the only players in the league that can consistently give a team 10 rpg over the span of several seasons. So remember to think before throwing that number out there. The same goes for "2 blocks per game." My prediction for Cato's stats (if he plays 25 mpg) are: 6-7 ppg, 6 rpg, 1 bpg. I'll take that, especially if Yao Ming is putting up decent stats by the end of the year. (I'll take his Olympic stats - 10.5 ppg, 6 rpg - for his rookie year adjusting to the League).
     
  9. leebigez

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    Last yr I stated if Griffin starts he can get 12-13 pts and 7-9 rebs and about 2 blks. Thats pretty close to what he got when he started. Ming should get at least those number or better because he plays a weaker position, more skilled than Griffin, and played against better competion than griffin. We need not to forget he has been playing international ball for 5 or 6 yrs, so he should have a better or quicker chance to adapt than a guy 1 yr removed from high school. Ming should start and get 12-15 pts and 7-9 rebs and at least 2 blks. If he starts and plays 30-35 minutes that pretty good. After that , Cato can come in and get his 5pts and 4 rebs in his 13-15 minutes.
     
  10. don grahamleone

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    We will use him for 6 fouls against Shaq and when we don't play the Lake show, then we give him to Tyson as a sparing partner to prepar for Tyson Lewis II.
     
  11. RIET

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    hpscc,


    Chandler is a better player?

    Do you even watch basketball? :eek:
    He has a lot of potential but he is not currently better than Brand.

    Yes it was very shrewd to get draft position to get Jay Williams. all he had to do was lose more games than anyone else. Of course Golden State couldve been shrewd too, but their ping pong balls bounced the wrong way. Man that's shrewd :rolleyes:
     
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  12. subtomic

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    Pros for Cato:

    1) He moves well without the ball - I don't think anyone in here can argue that Cato gets all those alley-oops from Steve because Steve's court vision and passing are extraordinary. Cato simply takes advantage when his man leaves him to double-team Francis. As long as Francis and Cato can continue this synchronicity, he's a good fit for the team

    2) He has true center size but can still run the floor - Most NBA centers are PF-sized runners or C-sized slugs.

    3) Decent defender and offensive rebounder - He'd actually be good at these if it weren't for Con #1

    Cons for Cato

    1) Consistency & Hustle - You never know when Cato will show up 100% for a game. Even worse, you never know what kind of shape Cato will show up in to training camp.

    2) Offense - Alley-oops do not count as an offensive move

    3) Salary - I know, dead horse, but it's worth repeating.

    He'll be an expensive backup, but unless you want Collier in there, he's as good as any other available center.
     
  13. DaDakota

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    Cato and the 15 for Lamar Odom.

    DaDakota
     
  14. rockHEAD

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    Q: Cato...what will we do with him?

    We can use him to wash and dry Ming's jock!

    :eek:
     
  15. DearRock

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    MCC (Ming,Cato, Collier) stays! Unless you want to give Shaq his forth Championship next year.
     
  16. No Worries

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    Cato and Yoa will be the Twin Towers II!!!!

    On O, Yoa can be the high post and Cato the low post. I can see it now, Yoa lobbing it into Cato for the jam :)
     
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    What planet are YOU on!? Brand last year had 18.2 ppg and 11.6 RPG. Chandler's numbers? 6.1 ppg 4.8 rpg. Oh yeah, he's just a machine! Brand his rookie year put up 20 ppg and 10 rpg and won co-rookie of the year, what was it Chandler did again? And I know you're going to say "he's 19 and he has a lot of upside", well Brand just turned 22 3 months ago. By the way CD is MUCH more shrewd then Krause, the Rockets won more games then the Bulls yet got a higher pick! ;)
     
  18. TheGreatest

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    Call me crazy, but I wouldn't mind seeing a Ming-Cato-Griffin frontline. I honestly think that lineup could do some damage. Sort of like a cheap imitation to the Twin Towers we had with Sampson and Hakeem. Or we can call it the Triplet Towers, because Griffin can also be considered a "tower"
     
  19. HonestAbe

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    I would just like to retract this topic, "Cato...what will we do with him."

    I was just over on hoopsworld.com and noticed that Bill "The Rocket Guy" is asking the same type of question in his most current Rocket update. So please forgive me!?! I take it all back.
     
  20. Possum

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    Lets send Cato to Golden State since we owe them a good screwing for the Marc Jackson fiasco. On second thought after seeing what MJ accomplished this year for Min maybe we owe them a favor. Ok lets send them Rice too. :D
     

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