i think i see ur point, we had a 22 winining streak last year with yao out, but we could'nt even get a 10 wining streak this year with yao in the line up. fire the coach for not helping our team getting a streak this year.
Failure? We get past the 1st round. Right there is success to me, or at least semi, considering we didn't have McGrady (or 22 million dollar worth of player(s)). Then with Yao out more than half the series, we took the champions to 7 games. Mind you, we didn't have McGrady still or even out back-up center. We traded your beloved Rafer for Lowry. A great trade, but yet another adjustment to the rotation we have to make. Last year, we didn't show anything. We went on an amazing run with Yao out with Jeff too. Ask any other team's fan last season, no one was scared of the Rockets. Also, adding big impact player like Ron isn't just all positive. Players/coaches gotta adjust. Ron and Tracy are ball-stoppers; in the first half of 08/09, it was obvious that adjustment was needed. What was the adjustment? Tracy being out. Not the best we can hope for, but it did help us out. You blame Rick for only winning 53 games? How about the players? Tracy and Ron didn't adjust to each other. Both of them were ball-stoppers. Battier was gone for the 1st part of the season. Tracy and Ron flipped a coin to see if they were going to play that night. How the hell can any coach (including your beloved Jeff) discipline a team when they don't even know who the hell is playing? If Jeff is so prepared, how come he hasn't won a championship? This disciplinary method got flaws as well. It's not perfect; neither is the let the players play method. How come none of Jeff's disciplined team won 22 games in a row? Rockets had more offensive weapons, but when the biggest or the 2nd biggest (Tracy) is out, there is nothing much you can do. What the hell was the "believing" written for? I believed in the team; does that make me a good candidate for coach after Rick gets fired? You don't think Rick believed that our team couldn't win? You can't call Jeff a winner and Rick a loser. That's just being plain stubborn. Unbelievable you would say that. We were up 2-0 against Mavs; we blew it. Not to mention an embarrassing 40 point loss in game freaking 7. How were we prepared the first two games, but not the last game? We were up 2-0 against the Jazz with homecourt; we got Tracy crying after game 7. Neither has won the championship; you either call them both great coaches or both losers. Not one loser and the other a winner. That ain't right. In the NBA finals with the Blazers, he was against a player called Jordan. Heard of him? In the Western Conference Finals, he was against a dynamic duo called the Shaq/Kobe. You want examples of losers? Mavs losing to Golden State. Mavs choking in the Finals. Lakers losing to the Pistons when they had Payton, Malone, Shaq, and Kobe. You call the Rockets losing to the Lakers without Tracy and Yao (and backup center) being a loser? Abandon sports. I don't think you can ever appreciate a sports team. Close to 70 games? We haven't proved anything with Tracy. You can't dominate this league with talent. They gotta have chemistry going on. Ron and Tracy together hasn't shown that chemistry. It's going to have to take some losing to possible get them playing the right way together. They might have to lose +12 games, and to think we can win 70 is ridiculous. Get real. And also, Rafer is not on this team no more. Don't do the, without Tracy and Rafer, we put the Lakers in 7 games. Rafer helped but also hurt this team. He's gone. I'm thankful for it. How the hell are you going to compliment us for taking the champs to game 7, when you called this season a failure? Come on now, it's either failure or success. We may not be able to blame anyone about the injures, but we CERTAINLY can blame the injuries on us not being able to go to the Finals. Why can't you grasp that idea? Adjust? Jeff is the wost at adjusting. He didn't adjust against the Mavs and their rookie coach Avery Johnson. Avery just completely adjusted and beat us by 40 points in game 7. (Of course, Avery adjusts way too much. That's why he lost the the Warriors) Motivation? He motivated the team pretty well against the Lakers in the playoffs. He motivated the team pretty well during the 22 game winning streak. I also don't think Jeff motivates well. Making a player play perfect with no mistakes or else he's benched is not motivation. It's making players play with fear.... Having players injured halts teams. It's simple as that. I also don't know how you going to blame Rick for letting Ron and Tracy flip their coin to see if their going to play that night. You should also be blaming, the players themselves, Morey and the trainers if you are going to be blaming. And you still thinking that the Rafer trade wasn't a good trade just shows why you like Jeff. The "give up the future for now" attitude is one of the reason why he got fired. Lowry helps us now and in the long-run. You want the Rockets to win with Yao (which is a very short window) then go into rebuild mode? Hell no. You want to win while you can prepare for the future. It's not that hard of a concept to grasp. I'm going to guess that you compliment the players like Brooks, Wafer, and Landry development only on them self and not the coach. Rick had a great deal with the development of those players. Hell, he is one of the big reason we drafted Brooks. This is a very special team. I agree with you there. But... you can't compliment only the players for winning and blame the losing to the coach. That's stupid. And those couple of games that we lost, are the games where we just need a few ball bounces to go in our favor. Then we would have won, and the seeding would have been different. Hilarious you used Ron as an example in this thread. Ask Ron about Rick. I'm sure he is AGAINST firing Rick. I'm also sure if you ask if the injuries hindered the team, he'd say hell yea. I'm also sure Ron would agree with me that Rick did a great job this season. What does this have anything to do with firing Rick? We had your favorite point guard in Rafer, we haven't gone past the first round with him. I hope you know that. (This includes the years under Jeff) Please point them out. And also, losing 14 games (if that is an actual accurate number) to bottom teams isn't all on Rick. Be realistic.
I stopped reading after we should fire RA... hahahhaha Stop drinking the cool aid.. - Wafer would not have played 50 minutes under JVG - Luther head would still be here - Rafer would still be the starting pg - Brooks would be lucky to see 15 mpg - Lowrey would not be on this team - Landry would still be in the D league - Yao would avg 36 mins vs 32
Its the off-season, so I guess we are going RETRO with the threads, right? Bringing up old stuffs........ OK, here is my take - We should not trade Hakeem to Raptors.
I blame Rick Adelman for asking Clyde to guard MJ and thats why Portland lost game 5. What ! Its not 1992 anymore?
another stupid thread from someone who don't really understand basketball and who just look at the stats.
Every aspect of your argument has already been picked apart by other posters here.. saves me the effort.. why don't you move along elsewhere?
I'm not sure we can just blame Rick Adelman. Wasn't their another shooter behind the grassy knoll? And I am sure the teamsters and the mafia had their finger in causing this failure of a season as well. In fact, you have inspired me. I am going to see if Jim Garrison is available to investigate this abomination of a season the rockets just finished. Who knows, maybe Oliver will turn the scandalous Rockets of last season into a feature film.
I can't believe that you spent 20 pages of words just to reach that conclusion. You think that by playing with Chris Paul or Derron Williams, you will make Yao a better player? Frankly, I think by playing with Yao, CP3 and Dwill will be worse than they are now.
Agreed. For all the drama, injuries, and other question marks he dealt with, he should have been COY. I was skeptical of his hiring as I thought he was similar to D'Antoni but he's improved our D, trying to upgrade the O and for the fact he pushed the Lakers to 7 won me over. Some of his decisions are questionable and head scratchers, but overall he's a good coach. Win the 'ship Rick, then I'll call you Great.
ra does a pretty good job with yao but he does a poor job with ron ron and an even worse job with von and the mcgrady situation was a little to blame on adelman as well. also when rafer went out for that 4 or 5 game stretch with his hamstring he should have had mcgrady runnin the back up point or even brent barry luther head is not a POINT GUARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Big thanks to "Go_Korea" for taking apart the OP's post piece-by-piece, I could barely read it much less argue it like that. Seriously...53 games? Is that the big deal, how many games are won during the regular season? What about some emphasis on what happened during the playoffs? Second round...ring a bell? Maybe the OP likes the Cavs with the 66 win record for the regular season who lost in the Eastern Conference Finals to the magic? They had a good regular season number... Doesn't matter what you do during the year, you get to the playoffs, you get it done during the playoffs. We got it done with what we had and I'm surprised we got it done that well. Only team to take the Lakers to 7 games, I'd say that's an accomplishment. Yao out, no backup C, just a lot of heart and hard play. Where's the mention of RA's motivational skills during the Lakers series? Why does RA have to motivate guys who make millions of dollars a year to do a job? You wanna talk about RA, let's talk about some coaching decisions you think he did wrong. Why not more mention of injuries and lineup changes during the season that make it hard for a team to get some consistency on the court? I'll tell you why, OP's got an agenda rather than a valid argument. Will be glad to see RA back coaching a healthy Rockets team. Go Rockets!
Well Mike Brown won, and there are rumors of his firing as well... But anyways, wit hall do respect OP, are you kidding me? RA has been a great asset to this team, he has basically made something out of nothing last two seasons...as long as he is our coach, i love our chances Chilcutt
