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Would you trade Yao for Griffin?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaDakota, Jun 18, 2009.

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Would you trade Yao for Griffin?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. BleedRed

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    hmm I am starting to think most of the people here are just buying into the hype, only looking at stats and have not actually seem Blake play much... probably just the highlights. Most of his offense is from offensive put backs from his great rebounding talent. Defensively he is very good though.
     
  2. RocketsPimp

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  3. Blurr#7

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    Wow, somebody needs attention. Yeah you're right Scola and Landry are "adequate". And If MY memory serves me right our offense ran thru Scola more than afew times after Yao went down. Ask Gasol and the Lakers about that.
     
  4. apxn82

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    man you just answer your own question dude. If yao is there scola take a back seat. and if yao and tmac on the floor, scola will take a back back seat. That's not GREAT.
     
  5. Deckard

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    Wouldn't do it. As has been said, Les wouldn't do it, either. Now if you could somehow get both Griffin and Rubio...
     
  6. kevC

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    100 times out of 100. I think Lawson's going to be the best PG to come out of tihs draft.
     
  7. ParaSolid

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    Griffin an "all-time great"? Only if hitting his head on the backboard was a stat, then he'd be a shoo-in.

    He's a specimen, no doubt, but apparently his results in the pre-draft workouts were merely average to above-average. He also doesn't have a jumpshot, so he's going to have to rely on his ability to bulldoze his way to the hoop. I don't think he's big enough to that consistently as a pro.

    I'm not drinking his kool-aid just yet.
     
  8. HowsMyDriving

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    i disagree. i will take the known quantity that is AB's play at an NBA level over the unknown of Ty Lawson.

    Ty's cieling imo is not that much higher than AB's that you trade a player that has proven himself for one that hasn't.
     
  9. jump shooter

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    I think Lawson is going to be something very special and he's going to have a hell of a pro career. I probably would take him over Brooks.
     
  10. kevC

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    I usually think that way about big men but I think Lawson has shown enough to be at least as good as Brooks. (I don't think Brooks is that great).
     
  11. heyangw

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    Talking about injury, Camby is not much better than Yao, and he is 35 years old.
    Here are the number of games they played
    Camby Yao
    2005~2006 54 57
    2006~2007 70 48
    2007~2008 79 55
    2008~2009 55 77
    Total 258 237

    I do not think the 21 games in 4 years is a big difference. They are both injury prone.



     
  12. tinman

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    I'm not sold on Griffin.
     
  13. HowsMyDriving

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    brooks is still very early in his career. but he has proven at least a few of the fundamentals you want from your pg. he has proven that he is able to penetrate perimeter defenses consistently. he has proven to a reasonable degree that he can finish at the rim. he has proven able to defend opposing 1s and play the pick and roll. he has proven he can handle the physical rigors of an NBA season. he has proven an ability to step up in the playoffs and carry the load offensively. he has proven his game transleates both in the half court and in the open court. he has proven that he can reliably hit an NBA three, both catch and shoot as well as off the bounce and behind a pick. there's so much more too.

    that just seems like an awful lot to give up for a PG that, on paper, does not seem to have a significantly higher cieling. He's not more athletic than AB. He's already had more injury problems. You don't see court vision thats dramatically improved. He does offer more of a stocky, strong build, but you already have KB in that mould . . .

    I'm not saying Lawson isnt good though. it was obvious to anyone who watched UNC play last year the kind of impact he had on that team's offensive punch. i just think its not the kind of tantalizing step up from AB that would make me risk so much that I already know.

    Given a choice between a bond that returns 5% interest with 1x risk, and a stock that returns 5.25% interest with 5x the risk, I stick with the bond, yknow?
     
  14. Roxxx4life

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    I think Yao's injury problems were caused by too much playing time. He basically played all year round... Now that he is getting some rest during this offseason and probably reduce his minutes during the season will difinitely give him good results. Blake Griffin is probably an upcoming star in the NBA but he has not prove anything yet in this level. Yao had done so much for this team and prove that he can help this team win. Just give him some rest and he should be alright next season... IMO
     
  15. TMac4Life#1

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    i guess your just the type of person to make a thread like this. 3 pages already and no 1 has flamed you yet. :D

    but just to answer your question. No. No matter how injury prone Yao is i would keep him. He is a proven player. We know what we are going to get out of him. As for Griffin he is an unknown. We don't know how he is going to do in the NBA. For all we know he can be another Kwamie Brown or Olawakandi. Do you really want to take that risk??

    Plus your trading Yao for another injury prone player who is just as worse. You would get fired after one year as a general manager :p
     
  16. tcadriel

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    You have to see the big picture. Moving Yao would undermind all the Rockets have done the past few years. Basically scrapping everything and rebuilding. IMO Yao is a once in a life time player, a hard working, intelligent 7'6" center with a nice shooting touch, who IMO hasn't reach his peak yet. Not to mention the capital he brings to the team as far as revenue in dollars. For Camby and for a player that has yet to step on the floor of a NBA game yet. The draft is nothing more than a educated guessing game. How many teams pasted up Michael Jordan? How many teams make the wrong move with the 1st pick in the draft? Who would have known what he(MJ) would have became. Not to many or any. Have some cents people. :confused:

    DD, I have much respect for your knowledge of the game, but a bit disappointed to think you would think this would be a smart move for the franchise or the team.
     
  17. DaDream

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    How good do people think Griffin is going to be? Compare him to a past player.. I don't watch to much college ball.
     
  18. jump shooter

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    Good post, but I think in the end Lawson will be the better player. Injuries are the only thing that can derail Lawson, but I see a Jameer Nelson like story setting up for Lawson.
     
  19. Uprising

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    I'm thinking I would. How long can this team continue to go....or how far, with Yao falling to the floor with an annual injury?

    Yao and Tmac are made of glass. :eek:
     
  20. MightyMog

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    If it was a rebuild year, sure.

    However look at the Clippers Roster. lol I think they would do it in a heart beat.

    Baron Davis
    Yao Ming
    Zach Randolph
    Al Thorton
    Eric Gordon

    Chris Kamen as backup C

    You got the man in the middle who is a team player, who is the most efficient offense Center with the ability to alter shots. Than you got a Chris Kamen as a backup who is good for a double/double........

    The only bad part is...

    Zach's defense is horrible.
    Baron needs to pick his game up, last year was horrible for him.
    Clippers are cursed
    They would need an owner who wants to Win.

    But with that lineup, they could make the playoffs.
     

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