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Knicks Interested in McGrady?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Mathloom, Jun 17, 2009.

  1. heyangw

    heyangw Member

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    Advancing needs team effort, needs everyone's contribution.
    But a guy's laziness and lack of defense would destroy the whole team's effort and break the chemistry.
    That's why he is a cancer.

     
  2. t_mac1

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    please find some ways to watch the suns in previous years in the playoffs and see if you come back with the same assessment.
     
  3. heyangw

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    Rockets are not Suns. They play different basketball.
    Playing no defense in Suns is OK, because their offense is super good and wins them games.
    But Defense is what marks Rockets a strong team. Anyone on the court playing lazy defense would severely hurt the team. Please watch the Rocket games last season before and after TMac quit and see if you come back with the same assessment.

     
  4. t_mac1

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    tmac sucked on every end possible last year so him being out was a great thing.
     
  5. leebigez

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    DD, I assuming you're kidding, right. What part of amare is a way better player than scola don't you get. The argument is closer about who is the better player between yao and amare than scola and amare. How many times have u seen matt bonner take amare off the dribble from the top of the key? Teams don't even guard scola until he starts hitting shots. Amare abused duncan in the playoffs and true they lost the series. He's younger than scola and just plain better. His teams have also been more successful. U think teams would leave amare butt naked from 15 ft every play? You could argue that amare would be the rox best player, yet you're going to say scola is just as productive. Get real! Amare has made 1st team all nba more times than Yao. Give me a break. Amare wouldn't be splitting time with carl landry either. Nor would he get pulled for chuck hayes because he's getting abused either.
     
  6. JamesC

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    I guess I'm in the extreme minority but I think a rehabilitated Tmac is MUCH better than trading for any of the Knicks trash or most other teams for that matter.
     
  7. heyangw

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    That's why people are accusing him and giving up hope on him.
    But I do hope him rehab well and be able to play within the team next season. Even with 80% of him, Rockets would be a champion caliber team although this chance is rather scarce.

     
  8. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Amare is a better player, he is just not a better FIT for this team.....he whines about his touches, doesn't play defense....

    If you are happy having a JR Rider type of cancer in the clubhouse that is whining about getting his shots and touches, then fine.

    I would prefer a guy committed to playing tough Defense, playing smart opportunistic offense and rebounding the ball.

    How can Scola be a better rebounder than the much more physically gifted Amare?

    How? Heart, hustle, determination.

    I am not against upgrading the position, but I want a guy who is going to be committed to making this team better.

    Right now, PF is not a big issue, we need a Wing who can create for himself and others and shoot a decent percentage more than we need a 20% upgrade at PF who will get more points but fewer rebounds and give up more points on defense.

    DD
     
  9. redao

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    wake up, TMAC's trade value is negative simply because we have him in hand and have to trade him before we pay him massive salary for nothing.


    It is like trading Rafer. We have to take something bad or lose something good to trade TMAC, not the other way around.

    we won't get Lee or 8th pick for TMAC, Never. We might have to give them Brooks or Landry for them to take TMAC.
     
  10. heyangw

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    Not much people doubt about that.
    With a physically healthy Yao, Rockets is a better team.
    With a physcially and mentally healthy TMac, Rockets is a champion team.
    Let us see if that's going to happen.

     
  11. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Tmac will probably never be physically healthy again, and for SURE won't be mentally healthy.

    Cut the cancer.....

    DD
     
  12. Rookie34

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    yeah, leave it up to them to rate a NEWS ARTICLE not on an originally created thread.

    I'm sure they gave 1 star when McGrady called it quits for the season on ESPN too cause they didn't like the news.

    News <> Opinion

    Kobe > Tracy
     
  14. AB#0

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    Please Houston, I know you can work out a deal where we are not getting ripped off.
     
  15. Icehouse

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    Say no to David Lee, or any other PF that is not a superstar, yet will command a big salary. Unless we upgrade to a superstar at that position then we are better off with our cheap and productive combo.
     
  16. Depressio

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    Rumors <> news either, IMO. Rating threads like these are meaningless anyway, so I don't do it.

    Everything indicates that the Rockets/Knicks talking is nothing more than due diligence and exploring all possible options, yet everyone is discussing it as if it's imminent. It's like discussing Shaq to Cleveland. Discussing trade options/rumors can be fun, but some people need to get a grip and realize that it's all hypothetical at this point; the "OMG THE KNICKS PLAYERS SUCK, OUR TEAM WILL BE RUINED" posts are somewhat... dumb.

    I agree with DD for once, that the Rockets do not need a PF at all. We need a wing. If we're trading Tracy McGrady, we need someone in return that can fill that void. The Knicks simply don't have anyone like that; the only enticing thing they have is their lottery pick and perhaps a little savings via Mobley's contract (which we can use to sign Ron/Von).
     
  17. rocketsmetalspd

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    Off with the cancer. Seriously enough with still hoping TMac can come back and be able to help the team win a title. I can't wait to see what Morey can come with next week during the draft.
     
  18. AB#0

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    It's hilarious how Tracy had one of the best individual playoff performances in the NBA, and then gets hurt and can't play for basically the whole year. The guy playing with a hurt shoulder and 1 leg. Yeah he's coming of a tough surgery to recover from, but he's working hard as you can see. What's the guys name Tim Grover? He helped Wade, Jordan, ect of there injuries. I think we should give T-Mac the same respect.
    Never was a 100% and like a anonymous fan said on him'' people say he has no heart but he played all year banged up'' I think that really says a lot. People tend to forget how just last season he led Houston to 22 straight victories. The Rockets played great this year without him, but a lot of times didn't have that player to create his own shot or take over in the 4th which T-Mac can do. If the Rockets had T-Mac in the playoffs we would be ready to face the Magic.
     
  19. leebigez

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    You throw the word cancer out too loosely. I've been in a lockerroom when 1 guy was banging another guys gal and they worked good on the court. You make it seem like amare is jr rider which you know he's not. Amare is a better fit on any team than scola. You talk about balnce and explosiveness, do u think amare's man would be cheating off him to contest a lob to yao? Do you think the 8 trips to the free throw line that amare gets would help the team stay out of scoring droughts? Do u think a guy like amare who is younger than scola has more quality impact yrs than scola? Amare is a better player and its not even close DD and you know it. You know it and that's why you deceided to bumb a old appreciation thread. Scola had 1 good offensive game against La when he scored a lot of points in the first half. With amare, teams have to focus on him as much as they do Yao which will open yao and others up. You can't put your flag in the ground and I admit scola is better than what I previously gave him credit for, but the gap between he and scola is bigger than the gam between artest and kobe.
     
  20. abc2007

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    Tmac is an unlucky player. But, he earns 20+ m per year. Even he missed more than half of last season, he still got those money. He has nothing to complain.

    It's time to move on!

     

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