I am against a New York trade unless those smaller expirings are for further trading to get us good players.
And what's the deal with all the Kevin Martin talk anyways? More people on here talk about him like he's the next president it seem like. Why get him when we could possibly get Amare? I would rather have a guy can dominate and put the ball in the basket and Amare can do that like few others can.
I think it would be Scola at the 4 and Amare at the 5 when Yao is out, but either way, Scola would be the perfect 6th man.
That like saying Yao is injury prone because of 2 freak years and 1 year of broken bone and 1 year after playing 70+ games with a stress fracture..... But lets disregard the fact 2 of the 4 years was a freak injury. All I know is Amare had his best years under 7 seconds are less offensive lead by Nash. If Nash leaves this year, we can see how well he does. Till then I am taking the stance of "If we can label Yao based on 4 years of injury, many people can label Amare success to 7 second or less offense lead by Nash" Also I never said Nash was the one to help him, I said if they got Nash also, great I am sold. Still doesn't cover up the fact his defense is horrible.
oh yeah, that would be and excellent trade too. doubt it would go down doh. I think they would rather have T-mac and his expiring contract than Artest right now.
Sweet Lou, I hate to break it to you, but the Rockets will NOT be able to get a good free agent simply by letting T-Mac's contract expire. Unless, of course, you're willing to gut the team's core. If you want for Yao, Artest, Battier, Scola, Brooks, Landry and Lowry to all be Rockets beyond 2010, then significant cap room is an impossibility. http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=168495&page=1&pp=20
Maybe we can combine a couple of rumors and scenarios that have been drifting around the interwebs. First off, the Wizards look to be unloading Jamison plus a contract (Thomas or James) and are rumored to be looking into a Jamison, James, and 5th for Wallace and Pavlovic of the Cavs. Sacramento has been rumored in looking into absorbing a massive expiring and unloading some longer contracts to set them up for a 2010 signing (Nocioni and Udrih). Well, we could step in and convince the Wizards not to give talent to a supposed conference rival. We offer Tmac and Landry for Jamison, Thomas, and the 5th. We then trade Brooks, Cook, Barry and the 5th for Beno, Garcia, and the 4th. The Wizards get thier cap relief and a young solid pf to replace Jamison. This beats the Cavs offer, which would purely be a dump. The Kings get out of Beno's contract and replace him with a young cheap talent in Brooks. They also get Barry and Cook's expiring contract. We replace Landry with a solid veteran the fits the "4 that can spread the floor" definition. That is a player we've been wanting off the bench to spread the offense. Garcia is a solid player, a very cerebral player that plays solid defense (1 steal and 1 block last season) and shoots the ball well (40% 3point shooter). With the 4th we get our choice of any point we want. Let's say we take Rubio, I would say this is a success. Off season checklist- Get a 2 (Garcia), get a backup 5 (Thomas), get a 4 that can spread the offense (Jamison), get a top 5 pg in the lottery (Rubio). Yao/Thomas Scola/Jamison/Hayes Battier/Artest Garcia/Wafer Lowry/Rubio/Udrih
Understood. My point is no team will trade for McGrady right now in the hopes of getting something of value in a second trade when he comes off his surgery. It may happen that way, but it would be a risk to agree to the trade expecting it to happen. Right now, the trade has to be for the value of the expiring contract, and anything else would strictly be a bonus. So I guess I'm wondering if and how much McGrady's "resale" potential affects his trade value and whether the Rockets should wait to find out before they trade/keep him.
I have to say this is the best suggestion i have seen on these forums in a long time, well done Vivid. I do like the phoenix suggestions that have also been going around, however we do need a decent SG as Von doesnt really cut it as a starter. I love offseason discussion, there is so much to go around and it keeps the time at work interesting
Not sure about that. Yao already is a max player, he will probably demand that much next summer but he will also want to be reasonable and win. But Are you telling me that all of these guys are free agents next summer? We don't have to sign them all - i'd rather go after a D wade and not be too sad about Lowry, Landry, and Artest leaving.
I respectfully disagree on trading Scola for all the good things he brings to this rocket team. I hope Scola stays with the rockets until he retires... and please spare me the gold watch story... I don't need one.
u can also say nash was the benefactor of d'antoni's system. look at what the knicks did under d'antoni, while look at how nash whined and complained like a girl in earlier part of the season when D was emphasized. they ALL benefited from the system. but look at amare's SKILLSET. look at it. tell me if he needs ANY point guard to help him get his. he isn't kenyon martin that needed jkidd. u do know amare averaged 20ppg WITH stephon marbury right? stephon freakin' marbury. do you think he needs nash now?
if the team trades him now, the most likely conclusion is the team wants some continuity going into next season and avoid the endless distractions that tracy will bring in regards to his play and trade talks. plus, his health is a major factor
As an expiring contract, Mobley is more valuable than McGrady. 80% of Mobley's contract is covered by an insurance company. $9.5M counts towards trade and salary cap purposes but only $1.9M is paid by the team. Mobley's like a $7.6M pseudo-TE to whichever team that trades for him because that's how much they'll save on his contract. The savings could be even greater for the other team depending on how much salary the Rockets send away. Knicks aren't able to fully exploit Mobley's contract because they're protecting their 2010 cap space. If the Rockets sent McGrady to the Knicks it could be McGrady for Mobley + Hughes/Lee Mobley could be re-packaged to a third team. A few scenarios could be... Mobley + Cook to NETS for Carter *Deal would save Nets $10.7M for this upcoming season alone Mobley + Landry to PISTONS for Hamilton Mobley + Cook to BUCKS for Jefferson Mobley + Brooks + Lowry/Landry to SUNS for Nash
