Iranians may be ready to vote Ahmadinejad out of power

how did that help in iraq? the mullahs might be evil but they keep the terrorists at bay. if you open iran up as such, they terrorist will get in and chaos may ensue.

 

Watching images of protest on the internet, I cannot help but shed a few tears. Why must Iranians hit other Iranians with intent of killing them?

 

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The Real Votes: Mousavi at 52%

A reliable source at Iran’s Ministry of Interior today has told Uskowi on Iran that the real final vote count for Mousavi and Ahmadinejad was as follows:

Mousavi: 19,075,623 = 52%
Ahmadinejad: 13,387,104 = 37%

Uskowi on Iran is also advised that the ministry officials called Mousavi’s campaign HQ in Tehran after the final tally and informed them of Mousavi’s win and telling them that the results would be officially released within the hour by the director of the ministry’s electoral commission.

Half an hour after the phone call from the Ministry to Mousavi’s campaign HQ, however, IRNA, the official Iran’s news agency, announced that Ahmadinejad was leading the pack by 69% of 5,150,188 votes counted by then. IRNA’s official release also said the votes counted by then constituted 19.43% of the total votes cast.

According to IRNA’s own calculations, the total vote cast was 26,520,021 or a 57% turnout of the 46.2 million eligible voters. But at day’s end, the turnout was changed to 80%, with Ahmadinejad receiving nearly 24 million votes!

It is clear now that in the period between the phone call to Mousavi’s office and IRNA‘s first announcement, the officials changed the vote counts to steal Mousavi’s victory and to prevent a devastating defeat for Ahmadinjad in the very first round of the election. We have referred to this move as a coup. A designation that fits the crime.

The real looser of the election is the Islamic Republic. Unlike shah’s government, or those of the neighboring Arab world, the Islamic Republic claims moral high ground for maintaining a democratic process in choosing its president. This year, Islamic Republic’s own watchdog body qualified four candidates out of nearly 500 who applied, and many qualified persons who did not run fearing the certain disqualification by the government. Then the Islamic Republic told the Iranian people that they were free to choose between the four candidates. The youths came out in droves to vote for change. But the government steals the election from a "trustworthy" former premier, one of the four who was deemed loyal enough.

These are sad days for Iran, but the real looser is the Islamic Republic; loosing its legitimacy and its moral claim to an Islamic democracy.

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This was by far the most powerful picture I saw yesterday. There were about 3 or 4 different shots taken right in a row. If it isn't obvious right away, the picture shows a protester and Mousavi supporter helping a beleaguered and overwhelmed policeman in his riot gear to safety.

 

WOW!!!!

How can any country around the world accept the results of this election as legitimate?

 

Argentina has.

 

More pictures.

 

Not from Iran, I have Russian heritage, but I do take interest in Iranian history. You having lived there in a utopian bubble does not really mean you are more credible. For all I know, you and your family were just a bunch of urban elites who benefited from the Shah regime at the expense of the rest of your countrymen, much like Sunnis did from Saddam's rule in Iraq.

All very nice sentiments, but has literally nothing to do with my point.

That is what I was referring to. While the Shah failed to save his own regime because he did not have the stomach to quell a rebellion, the Mullahs won't repeat that mistake. That was the only point I meant to make. I am sorry if I hurt your delicate sensibilities.

 

Sometimes blood needs to be spilled in order for the good of the country and it's people.

This might be one of those times...

DD

 

Simply incredible to see. (BBC coverage from Iran)

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"We want freedom, we want freedom, we want freedom"....

Powerful stuff.

Take back your country Iran, you deserve better !!

DD

 

LOL

That video seems to show a lot more than a few hundred people representing an isolated incident.

 

Those pics could also be for the tens of thousands of Ahmedinejad supporters out on the streets of Tehran, so you never know I guess

 

median age is 26 + unemployment is 12% + perceived robbery = lots of angry young people with nothing to lose.

 

Is there anything the rest of the world can do to help? Or is everyone just on the sidelines hoping the good guys win?

DD

 

Unemployment is more like 30% there. Inflation is around 25%. That economy is in shambles thanks to Ahmadinajad and his horrible economic mismanagement. For all we want to focus on his statements to the US and his foreign policy, the real tragedy has been his horrendous reforms and economic policies. He is ruining Iran everyday with his nonsensical changes and pandering to rural Iran. Everything he does is calculated and none of it is in the interest of Iran.

Guys like Mousavi and Rafsanjani are snakes with a checkered past but Ahmadinajad takes the cake. He's the worst of the worst.

 

Helping at this point is not a good idea. Getting involved means a great scapegoat for the Iranian government and an easy way to pin the protests on American influence in Iran. The Obama administration is doing exactly the right thing by staying out of this.

It sucks because our instinct is to try and help but at this point that's not a good idea.

 

Sigh, I think you are right, and that sucks that the people there who are screaming "We want freedom" over and over again, are being governed by Mullahs with a political agenda that doesn't allow freedom.

DD

 

As someone else has already noted, foreign meddling in the affairs of Iran is a big hot-button issue. If it appears that foreigners are trying to manipulate things, the Iranians will unite to fend them off. Think about the reaction in the USA when Hugo Chavez called dubbya 'Satan' at the UN. Then multiply by 1000.

The best thing for the rest of the world to do is just stay out of the way.

 

Yeah, I agree, you just hurt for those people that are desperate for freedom.....

You want them to have the same quality of life as we get to experience, the ability to think and choose a religion for themselves, or to not choose a religion.

The ability to hold hands with your girlfriend, or boyfriend and walk down the street.

Things the free world gets to enjoy that are snuffed out by narrow minded religious zealots running a country.

So sad.

DD