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Why Mobley doesn't want to play with Ming: according to David Aldridge

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by j-bone, Jun 12, 2002.

  1. j-bone

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    This is according to David Aldridge's chat wrap.

    TSAI, nj: do you think knicks have a shot at ming? i heard mobley say he doesnt want to play with ming. have you heard anything?

    David Aldridge: I talked with Cat before Game 3 on Sunday. His only concern is how long it will take Ming to develop. As far as the Knicks go, I don't think they can get up to where Ming will be. They'll have to look at Borchardt or Wilcox, probably.
     
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  2. dave feitl

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    I'm willing to bet Ming develops faster than Cat's defense ever develops. OH wait Cat's defense may never develop. So we might as well take a sure bet.
     
  3. heypartner

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    excuse me: it looks to me like Aldridge categorically denies the assertion in your Thread Title and the Chat Question that Mobley ever said he "doesn't want to play with Ming."

    Yet another myth has been created, I guess.
     
  4. NJRocket

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    The only thing I gather from that is that Mobley wants to turn it around in H-town and win sooner rather than later. There's nothing wrong with that attitude at all.
     
  5. DaDakota

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    I think that Mobley is viewing players like Griffen who took a long time to develop. Also, Ming has been playing at a higher then college level for more then 4 years, I think he will be a lot farther along then Mobley thinks.

    Hakeem did not take so long to contribute......let's hope Ming does the same.

    DaDakota
     
  6. NIKEstrad

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    Mobley is so selfish for wanting to win now. And to think he tried to bring Francis down with him.

    Maybe we should trade him for Robert Horry and a pair of Shaq's shoes. Horry wouldn't whine, and Shaq is probably one of the only players in the league with a pair of shoes Ming could fit in.

    Dakota-the CBA is higher than the NCAA? Since when?
     
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    I think that point has been discussed without much clarity for too long.

    On one hand, there's a good argument that most of the foreign players in the CBA are former NCAA Div. I players (as well as getting a cup of coffee in the NBA), as well as one lone Chinese player who played well at Utah.

    On the other hand, there's probably not many CBA teams that could've taken on the Duke Blue Devils this year... maybe not even the Tarheels.

    So, let's say this: the CBA is probably comparable to a lesser Div. I conference. Not ACC, not Pac-10, not Big-10... but probably WAC, maybe Big East, Atlantic-10.
     
  8. RocketForever

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    I agree. What cracked me up is some people said the CBA is not even comparable to the High school teams...

    :D :D :D
     
  9. rezdawg

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    Posted by heypartner:
    Actually, Cat has stated that he would prefer not to pick Ming. Its not a myth.
     
  10. glynch

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    The problem Cuttino is talking about areplayers who skip college altogether or have one year of college--not players who have four years of major conference NCAA ball.

    Hopefully noone is alleging that the CBA is no better than highschool, like some of the extreme Yao haters have.

    I would hope Cuttino wants to win asap. This is not selfish

    I agree with heypartner. What a bogus title for a thread whose content on its face disproves the title of the thread.

    Ming haters should just start trying to adjust to our new player to be rather than try to keep imaginary problems lingering.
     
  11. Batman Jones

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    I believe he said he would prefer a player like Odom. Doesn't mean he wouldn't also like to play with Ming. In earlier comments he said we should take the big guy, referring to Ming. I'm sure this has already more than blown over.
     
  12. RocketsPimp

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    Actually rezdoggiedog, Cuttino stated he'd prefer to trading for Lamar Odom which is different from flat out saying he doesn't want to play with Ming.
     
  13. Deuce

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    I think Cat and the rest of the Rockets should watch that little multimedia video that was posted by Clutch which featured Ming and the Rockets. ;)

    Chris
     
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    nevermind. Slow server. I see there are already people answering rezdawg.
     
  15. GATER

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    IMHO, all of Cat's objections will become ancient history the first time Yao grabs a defensive rebound between two opponents, pivots, and nails Cat with a near perfect pass as Cat is on the dead run near the mid-court line.

    Those struggling with assessing the level of competiton of the CBA or Chinese National Team might want to take a look at the US roster for the University Games in Beijing last summer where the US finished 3rd behind China and Yugoslavia:

    http://www.eurobasket.com/events/univer/univer01.asp

    USA
    Ely Melvin –207-C-78
    Baker Maurice –185-G-79
    Barrett Andre –172-G-82
    Barron Earl –210-C-81
    Reed Justin –203-F-82
    Slay Tamar –204-G-80
    Dickau Daniel –183-G-78
    Holden Tahj –207-F-81
    Barbour Antwain –196-F-82
    Mason Roger –196-G/F-80
    Owens Chris –203-F-79
    Baxter Lonny –203-C-79
    Smith Tyler –203-F-80
    Dixon Juan –191-G-78
    Greer Lynn –186-G-79
    Dudley Erwin –203-F/C-81
     
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    Thanks for posting that. Very encouraging, because there are some very good players on that squad and if they finished behind China, it does mean something to me.
     
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    When cat was asked if Ming should be taken #1, he said that he would prefer not to pick ming #1, but rather go with someone proven like Odom.
     
  18. heypartner

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    we all know that rezdawg. But that is not what the thread title says or the Chat Question. Those are myths, dispelled by both Mobley and, now, Aldridge. OK?
     
  19. ricealum

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    DaDakota: I think that Mobley is viewing players like Griffen who took a long time to develop. Also, Ming has been playing at a higher then college level for more then 4 years, I think he will be a lot farther along then Mobley thinks.

    I'm assuming that what DaDa meant was than in addition to league play, YM has played internationally many times. He's a seasoned pro who has at least played against NBA and some NBA caliber players. Very few graduating collegians boast the level of experience he has, although day in and day out, players like Bulter and Dunleavy faced stiffer competition.

    Griffen is taking a long time to develop? How long did it take Jermaine O'Neal to arrive, let along Jonathan Bender? EG should be a junior this year. I think he's doing fine.

    As for Ming, I noticed in this morning's paper a quote from his cousin Erick Zhang (who is called Erick or Mr. Zhang) that "Yao needs to compensate the [Sharks] properly...." So is it Yao or Mr. Ming, or is it Ming or Mr. Yao? Traditionally, the family name comes first in China, followed by the given name, but it may be that some younger Chinese are reversing the order so as not to confuse Westerners. I believe Wang Zhi-Zhi has "WANG" on his Mavs uni. What will be on YM's? What do I call him when I meet him at Buddha's Delight after the Rockets play here in Boston? ;)
     
  20. RocksMillenium

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    When you only cut out that phrase and answer it then you're right. But if you look at everything he said he said he would rather have a proven player that can help them win now, meaning that if Yao can help them win now he'll be happy.

    <i>When cat was asked if Ming should be taken #1, he said that he would prefer not to pick ming #1, but rather go with someone proven like Odom.</i>

    Key word is "prefer", when did he say he DIDN'T want to play with Ming? I'm pretty sure Shaq would prefer to play with Jason Kidd, that doesn't mean he doesn't like Derek Fisher.
     

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