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Yao Needs to Be Watching Howard

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by SageHare6, May 27, 2009.

  1. roxwin

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    push and elbow,thats what Yao should learn rom DH,but only if refs allow that.
     
  2. dyu66

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    If Yao is allowed like this, image how dominant he can be.
     
  3. dyu66

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    Also blocking shot is so overated. How many times a blocked shot is either out of bound or still ended up in the same team's hands?
     
  4. roxwin

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    so,that will be stupid idea to compare these two.If Yao does what DH did,he will fouled out in 5 mins.

    DPOY,lol............

    push and elbow,thats where NBA happens.
     
  5. SWTsig

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    yeah and i just dominated a bunch of 7th graders on the court and they gave me the league MVP but that doesn't make me better than kobe
     
  6. roxwin

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    LOL..........
     
  7. Artesticles

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    1. His stamina is OK, as in not very good. Many times he's missed shots in the clutch he normally makes because of fatigue. His defense gets worse and his rebounding disappears.

    2. I didn't say his overall contribution is negative, but it CAN be at times against certain teams and certain defenses. There are times when the fronting defense on him makes our offense so bad, we'd be better without him on the court. See: Game 4 and 6 vs Lakers.

    3. He is pretty good defensively, but he's still no Dwight. Besides, Yao isn't even the best defensive big on his own team. Mutombo and Hayes were both superior to him there. And again, certain teams can really expose him on defense like we saw with Boozer, and shooters that can take him outside like Bargnani or Murphy.

    4. Isn't it obvious that Yao's presence will naturally contain Scola's offensive game, especially in the post? This isn't even debatable. It's not a crime going to Yao instead of Scola, but you'd see a much more productive Scola if he had more touches in the paint. He can't replace Yao's production on his own, but it would be higher. His added production + Howard would exceed Yao + Scola for sure on both sides.

    5. How is what I said about Howard/Scola pure "speculation"? I gave plenty of good reasons why they would complement each other well. Yao and Scola are a pretty good tandem, but both aren't exactly quick or athletic. That's why Dwight/Scola would be a better combo since it's more versatile and would have less matchup problems.
     
  8. wireonfire

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    People don't give Yao's D enough credit. Yes, he is a liability on pick and roll, but he is very good at defending the post. Deke is still clearly better at blocking shots, maybe even better at rebounding, but he gets abused by big, strong opponents in the post. Remember he got abused by Oden in the playoffs?
     
  9. ItsMyFault

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    Hmm.... I don't know what're more ridiculous... you thinking that that is a formula or the fact that you are comparing offense to defense...
     
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    Are you saying Scola + Artest > Hedo + Lewis? If not, what makes you decide that Howard + Scola + Artest can pass Blazers? Because Howard had so much success against big strong centers before?

    Are you saying that Artest should be in all star game, instead of Lewis, if we were in the East? Are you saying Nelson robbed AB's all star spot? Are you saying Scola should be Mr. fourth quarter or Mr. clutch shots and facilitator instead Hedo?

    If Hedo and Lewis are clearly better than Scola + Artest, what makes your logic work to draw the conclusion, that Howard can pass Blazers on the Rockets team?

    Simple logic, my friend. Sometimes it works against your best hope.
     
  11. dyu66

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    Do you understand this is how the game is played?
    Yao Offense> Howard Defense --> Yao overpowers Howard at the offensive end;
    Yao Defense> Howard Offense --> Yao stops Howard at the defensive end
     
  12. ItsMyFault

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    Yes... but that's head to head.... if you want to put it into that logic... then many players in the history of the NBA have had success against superior players on both ends of the floor (just because they don't match up well with them or just because they struggle against them for some reason)... it's not a good way in determining who the better player is.
     
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    If Yao and Howard meet in the playoff, whose team do you think is going to win?
     
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    Howard team will still win. Orlando got too many big and lengthy guys that can jack the three and drive. We got a bunch of undersize bigs.
     
  15. GotGame15

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    About 80% of the time that Howard blocks shots, it sails way out of bounds and the same team regains posession. To me, that does absolutely nothing other than maybe pump up ur team and crowd (if u have homecourt). If the team scores on that posession, then the block becomes irrelevant.

    I think when Yao blocks shots, most of the time, if not, more times than Howard, it will stay inbounds and have a chance for the Rockets to retrieve the ball. That will be a successful defensive stop.

    So, imo, i think Yao is a lot better in that department.
     
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    When did that happen? or when will be that happen?
     
  17. dyu66

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    Really? How many times did Howard's Magic win when they played Yao's Rockets in the past?
     
  18. apxn82

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    none either way because what happened during regular season means nothing!
     
  19. dyu66

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    So NBA should just forget the regular season and play the playoffs only...
     
  20. dyu66

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    Or superstars should the time off during the regular season and only play the playoffs.
     

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