Not only that, Rubio doesn't really want to play in Memphis. If this is true then it might be better for them to trade the pick.
If the #2 pick is truly in <i>Play</i>, I would expect Portland to be the favorite in obtaining it. Blake + Outlaw + Cash + Picks works for #2 + Jaric. If Memphis is looking for more cash to be included than the NBA limit allows, then a second trade could be done a month later to funnel more cash to the Grizzlies. Not exactly within the <i>Spirit</i> of what was intended by the NBA, so a second deal involving more cash could draw some attention from the League.
tony parker still can't shoot the ball past the 17-18 foot range and never will.... "couldn't shoot" isn't quite true, at least from midrange.....he just wasn't consistent with the midrange jumper and therefore didnt worry defenders much......like i mentioned earlier, you can polish what you already have, which is what parker did. Even still, he's not a good shooter from that area either, he shoots under 45%, except for the free throw area, which is his hot spot and hits at 58% from there. From around 8-10 feet out, he's at 43% or less. Parker has an incredible ability to finish inside and he takes a huge percentage of his shots from here, which inflate his Fg% and that's why so many people believe he's dramatically improved his shot, he's still streaky with it. rubio doesnt have parker's finishing ability or his speed, so he needs that jumper if he's going to be an all-star...either that or hit the weight room, which i dont see him doing..
Can you say Darko? Hype in the states is one thing. High school and college players pattern their games based on the NBA style most of the time and also have opportunities to play with pros before they even join the league. This gives you a good idea of how his talent will translate and what they will be able to do or not do in the NBA. You dont have that benefit with euro players. They play a different style, different and probably inferior players.... and im not sure where you get he "proved himself" in the olympics, all he proved is that he wont get destroyed in the NBA.
Can you say Yao Ming? Darko was a bust, but Every player picked in the top 5 has that same potential of failure. One thing the international game has over college is that Rubio has been playing against Grown men. Also He played in Euroleague, the #2 quality league in the world behind the NBA. He's not playing against scrubs, and yes holding his own against All-star USA PGs in the olympics DOES prove something. Scola was a prospect because of what he did against international competition. I don't recall Rubio just holding his own against Paul and Williams, it's not like Paul and Williams did anything special in those games as I remember. One thing is that lately as the Euroleague gets better and better, players are transferring better. Yeah you still get a Darko, but still...players from the US College system bust also. That's the risk the Rockets will take by trading up into #2.
you missed my point...the poster was saying the hype had to be true because it can't be falsely created...i definitely didnt mean no overseas player has ever or will never live up to it, just saying it's not a sure thing. Playing with grown men isn't going to help his shot any. Holding his own in one or two games doesnt mean much. I'm pretty sure Rubio has seen more of chris paul and deron than they've seen of him. Once rubio is here, players can adapt to him a lot more easily...yes he'll adapt some too, but NBA players have more they can learn about him than he of them. Also, one or two games a year against NBa competition isn't the same as 82 games in a season. There's wear and tear that comes with playing against quicker guys...i dont even think his season is this long and aren't game also shorter in europe? And just imagine the playoffs, where physical play rises another notch here.
the draft is for rebuilder..plus we can get a wayy better deal for the contract of mcgrady. I say..we stay were we are..and go on from there...and get ppl that have proven to be worth something in this leauge..other than chase a unproven commadatiyyyy!...
Okay, yeah the hype means absolutely nothing I agree with that. But I think when you scout players you have to take whatever you can get. Just those two games though, I mean you can't say that about any college player. That Blake Griffin played against Bosh in a game that meant everything. Euroleague season is about as long as US college season give or take, one thing you have to worry about with us getting Rubio is he can be Rafer Alston part two for us. We just finished dealing with a PG that can't shoot well, but Rubio just has so much potential as a pure pg. I think we are interested in him only because he's the type of guy who thrives on setting up his teammates with the best shot. He's not really worried about scoring, most European players aren't, just about helping the team as a whole and what they can do. I don't think we pull the trigger unless it's for Brooks/Landry or something like that (knowing the Grizz, who knows they might take that) because I don't think Adelman will sign off on trading for Brooks and having a new starting PG again.
I'm not saying the hype has to be true. I'm saying when was the last time you've seen a PG as highly touted as Rubio is? I'm also saying the hype is warranted, because he has held his own against the top tier competition. To me personally, he's an elite prospect that has a good shot at succeeding. Sure, he has flaws, but I look at guys like Jose Calderon, Rudy Fernandez, etc and their future is bright. Based off everything we've seen from Rubio, there's no reason to think he'll be a bust. It's just a matter on how good he'll be
They have to shop the #2. Rubio said if he gets picked by Memphis he will stay in Spain so you never know. Have hope Brother.
I think other teams can offer more, so I'm not getting too worked up over this. My number one concern is finding a quality big man to back up Yao. Everything else is secondary to that in my opinion.
For information's sake (and to give some additional info on the potential market value of late first rounders), apparently the Knicks offered to purchase the #27 pick from Memphis for the maximum $3M cash and were turned down. http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_a...zzlies_about_buying_pick_and_acquiring_darko/
The Rockets need to forget about the whole moving up in the draft. We basically have 1 more year with this team. Management needs to have a win now attitude and worry about the future next year. They only need to add a couple of positions, specifically back up center and backup point guard. This report is bogus and senseless, come on people its not like there is a player like Lebron James on the board at that pick.
I wonder who we could possibly be shopping to get that high of a pick (#2). Only player, that could warrant such a deal would be Scola and possibly Landry in a package deal.
We already have a good defensive point guard who sets up the offense and doesn't have a good outside shot, why get another one? Unless we're getting rid of Yao and rebuilding, Rubio is probably not going to help us as much as a LEGIT SWINGMAN or backup center.
