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2009 Offseason [Trades, Free Agents]

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ItsMyFault, May 17, 2009.

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  1. worzel gummidge

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    The League's hypothetical 2009-10 luxury tax figure is $69.4M
    NBA Salaries: shamsports.com/salaries TAU salaries: in-the-game.org/page=822 Pamesa salaries: in-the-game.org/page=1463

    Low-cost signings...
    Earl Clark (14th pick: $1.766,28M)
    Joel Freeland (30th pick: $989.04k)
    Pablo Prigioni (TAU: est. $1.28M)
    Matt Nielsen (Pamesa Valencia: est. $960k)
    James White (non-guaranteed: $825,497)
    Brad Newley (drafted, rookie min: $457,588)
    Maarty Leunen (drafted, rookie min: $457,588)



    Artest (S&T, $7.23M) /+Dorsey to BLAZERS for Batum + Freeland* + Outlaw ($5.71M)
    *Freeland cannot be traded for 30 days after being signed


    Multiple team trade:
    McGrady + Brooks ($23.602M) /+Dorsey to CELTICS for Allen + Rondo ($21.872M)

    Rondo + Landry + Lowry + Hayes + Cook ($12.565M) to SUNS for Nash + 14th pick ($13.125M)


    Nash, Prigioni, Barry
    Allen, Batum, Newley
    Battier, Outlaw, White
    Scola, (Earl Clark/14th), Leunen
    Yao, Nielsen, Freeland
    Team salary: $72.946,605M


    - Freeland will count towards the Blazers salary cap next season even if he isn't signed
    Source: portlandtribune.com

    - Allen & Rando are expring contracts. With contract extensions coming up for these two. The combinations of Allen's age and current $20M contract, while with Rondo it's likely he'll get a max contract but then he's not a franchise player, could be reasons why Boston would move these two.
     
  2. SamCassell

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    Wow, that's a lot of work, trades and otherwise, to bring in a 35 year old PG who plays no D and a 34 year old SG. Meanwhile, your entire bench and young core is sent away, and you're left with Outlaw and a bunch of scrubs in reserve. Batum and Clark might develop into something, but it's not worth gutting the team. You can get alot more value for McGrady's expiring and Brooks / Lowry / Landry than this pile of junk.
     
  3. BimaThug

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    I like how you're thinking, including European stars and other teams' unsigned draft picks in the Rockets' options.

    However, I'm not sure if Boston would be so willing to part with both Allen and Rondo just for Aaron Brooks and an expiring contract that will require the Celtics to pay MORE luxury tax in 2009-10 than had the trade not been made in the first place. Brooks is an affordable bargain, but he's not worth giving up both Allen and Rondo.

    That said, you raise an intriguing options for the Rockets' "pred-atory" tactics in the Portland Trailblazers. Before the Darius Miles debacle, it looked like the Blazers had a promising cap space scenario shaping up that would allow Portland to sign a max salary free agent. Now, the Blazers have barely more than the MLE's worth in cap space. And that's before you factor in restricted free agents like Channing Frye. The Blazers will no doubt try to increase their cap space in order to make a run at a significant veteran addition to their team. Hopefully, the Rockets can take advantage of this. Unfortunately, with Paul Allen as their own, the Blazers are not nearly in the financial straits that other teams are, so the financial desperation factor won't be there.

    For instance, if the Blazers need to clear some cap space, would the Rockets be willing to take Sergio Rodriguez (and his $1.6M salary) via its trade exception from the (last) Steve Francis deal? Maybe the Blazers even throw in Not to say that the Blazers wouldn't want to use Rodriguez in a package for some other deal. But at least it's an option.
     
  4. BimaThug

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    ^^^ I meant, "Maybe the Blazer even throw in the rights to Joel Freeland".
     
  5. postaboi713

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    so you wanna gut the whole team after making it to the 2nd round and pushing it to a game 7 without home court, T-Mac, Yao, or Deke because??? im glad your behind a cpu and not an actual front office..................
     
  6. worzel gummidge

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    As long Yao is with the Rockets they'll be a top 5 defensive team simply because his height denies the other team an option on offense.

    • Anemic offense won't change without altering personnel.

    • This season's shown how interchangeable the Rocket's backcourt is with Alston, Brooks, McGrady, Wafer, and Artest all having started there.

    • Yao, Scola, and Battier are the core. As long as this group is kept I wouldn't call it gutting the team.

    • Morey's stated that only the first 6 players in the squad matter. The rest can be made up of anybody.

    • As for the key bench players:

    Lowry-Prigioni
    Wafer-Outlaw/Batum
    Landry-14th pick/Nielsen/Outlaw


    The Scola & Prigioni combo are proven (TAU & Argentina) just not on the Rockets. The offensive output from Wafer & Landry can be replaced by Outlaw who plays SF/PF. None of them play a lick of defense. Improving the frontline, ie adding Nash & Allen far outweigh keeping bench players who will be overpaid in a season or two anyway. Batum & the 14th pick are more players with greater potential and longer term rookie contracts and at least one of them can contribute now the idealwould be both.

    [​IMG]
     
  7. RV6

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    well the celtics said today they arent trading rondo, in response to the rumors that they were shopping rondo and allen..
     
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    Trade tmac and cook, and barry expiring for VC and trenton hassel and one of their big men that could play backup C, preferably yi jian lian, if not then boone.



    Trade aaron, sign and trade artest for heinrick +filler and 1st pick



    heinrick/lowry

    carter/wafer

    battier/hassel

    scola/landry

    yao/yi





    That is a freaken deep team!!
     
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    umm. that's not much deeper than the current team :confused:
    Yi isn't even a real center
     
  10. devin23

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    It is when your 23 mil SG is injured, gone through 2 surgery and may never play well again, and is extremely injury prone, and your SF ron who never should be a SG has to play SG inplace of him. Add in the fact that brooks is really a SG HIMSELF under a pg body, i'd say what that trade makes for a mucher deeper team and more round team. Hell forget Yi, add brooks lopez if the nets could be desperate enough to trade a future player for cap relief.

    Hinrich/lowry
    VC/Wafer
    Battier/1st round pick SF from bulls/hassel
    scola/landry
    yao/lopez
     
  11. dexkk

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    they're not gonna trade lopez or d.harris no matter what and how do you expect Yi to play center when he can barely play power-forward?

    Personally, I think VC can be had easily but Bulls wouldn't give us 1st round pick and Hinrich. I think Hinrich might go to Portland if anything. We should look hard to upgrade center more than the point guard position. I'd rather have Brooks/Lowry than Yao/Dorsey??? for 82games+playoffs.
     
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    This off-season will be interesting. We have all the talent in the world. One could say we have our PF's covered, obviously a starting C covered, wings in Battier and Artest, and a nice young PG rotation. The glaring hole with Mutombo retiring is obviously a backup C, but there has to be more to it than that.

    - Backup C (that can easily be addressed in FA, I'd love a Sheed or McDyess, but even then there are other legitimate options like Gortat or Wilcox--though not the biggest fan)

    Then we have to look at our weakest position, which would then turn to the PG, or the SG position. Highly dependant on what happens with the McGrady situation (and obviously if Artest resigns or not). If McGrady is truly promising to come back early in the season, then I'd take the chance and plug him at SG, because a healthy McGrady is honestly the best aquisition we get this season, or a Carter if they're truly looking to shed salary.

    PG rotation is tough to guage, unless we get a significant upgrade, we shouldn't do anything. Bibby is a FA, but how long are we going to have sign him with him already getting up in age. There's also he could be too expensive for us. Nash would be amazing, I wouldn't be opposed to Hinrich as well, but his contract is iffy.

    A healthy McGrady is the best move we can make this summer, if it doesn't look like that'll happen, then hopefully we could an attractive piece at the trade deadline involving either Carter or Nash.
     
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    There is NO such thing as a "healthy McGrady" for a sustainable period of time. It's an illusion and a fact that many forget about
     
  14. Strawman

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    What's all this talk about Hinrich? Next season AB will be better than him, 4 years younger, and at a fraction of the price.
     
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    Agree 100%.
     
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    He's gone. I just wish people would accept that. Unless T Mac is willing to accept fewer years or less money there is absolutely zero chance the Rockets sign him to an extension.
     
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    His contract is awful.
     
  18. Egghead

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    wasn't there a rumor going around that the Rockets were interested in the Wizards #5 pick.... what type of deal do yall think the Rockets would make to get the #5 from the Wiz?
     
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    i think the rumor was they were shopping it, not that houston was after it
     
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