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2009 Offseason [Trades, Free Agents]

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ItsMyFault, May 17, 2009.

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  1. ABZERO

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    Because there's a rumor saying that Portland might wanna move up and draft Curry.
     
  2. ItsMyFault

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    I understand what you are saying, but that's too high of a price to pay just for those fundamentals IMO.
     
  3. leebigez

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    Since the suns might be in clearance mode, he is one.

    Amare,richardson= 29m

    for

    Tracy,scola,and Barry= 28m

    The rox are in get it done mode. This would put them at 65m payroll. They could use 1.5m for matt barnes, vets min on chris mihm as a emergency. They could let artest and wafer walk.

    Phoenix get a productive scola and 2 expirings in tracy and barry. They might be looking to reunite nash and dirk in 10.
     
  4. fitchjs

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    Since Charlotte is trying to lower salaries...........

    Could we get DeSagana Diop as a back up center?

    We may be able to get him for end of bench type players.

    Any thoughts?
     
  5. BimaThug

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    $6.0M in 2009-10
    $6.5M in 2010-11
    $6.9M in 2011-12
    $7.4M player option in 2012-13

    Uh, . . . no.
     
  6. H-TownBBall

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    What do people think about going after Andrea Bargnani as a PF/C. He would work for us in much the same way Lewis does for Orlando, and he has more size to defend the post. He is a major matchup problem because of his ability to hit the 3. I would be willing to part with Landry in a package to get him. I would think it would be a deal for more than just Bargnani. What else would we want from them?
     
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    I would take him in a heartbeat but if the Raptors are already trying to deal Chris Bosh I don't think they'd want to lose another big man.
     
  8. Stilldream'n34

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    Lamar Odom or Shawn Marion coming off the bench playing PF/C.
     
  9. Alvin Choo

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    His like a very poor man Lewis. He do not rebound enough, he cant defend small or big. And his 3p% is nothing to shout aloud.
     
  10. H-TownBBall

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    41% this season on 3.7 attempts is nothing to scoff at. That would make him the best 3 point shooter on the Rockets. Of course, his rebounding could use some work, but I remember him doing OK in the post against our bigs, and we have one of the best frontcourts in the league. He will only be 24 at the start of the season, so he still has plenty of room to develop, and he did much better at the end of last season. The league is moving towards PFs like him. It would be in our best interest to find a shooting 4 man before we are behind the curve. Fortunately, I think a stats man like Morey will see this. He talks about spacing the floor all the time, and he drafted Novak, who if he could play any defense at all would fit into the shooting 4 man mold.
     
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    Im sorry i didnt get a chance to see if this is a ongoing joke or something, but wow.. i cant even come up with a good enough insult for the idea of marion or odom playing center or even playing a true power power forward position, all i can say is wow
     
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    Morris Almond, 6-6 SG out of Rice
    Unrestricted Free Agent from Utah Jazz.
    Holds D-league record 53pts in a game
     
  13. Carl Herrera

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    I wonder how the Jazz are doing nowadays. Honesty, if Tracy isn't coming back, I wouldn't mind using his contract, plus Brian Cook to take some salary off Utah's table:




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  14. Stilldream'n34

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    I know that sounds crazy and I hadn't realized Marion is only 6'7(thought he was 6'10) but I figured we play small ball with our bench and these guys are very athletic and versitle. We would still be small but we could run, and they are taller than the guys we currently have. Just a thought, don't kill me! lol
     
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    marion played the 4 with the suns, and stoudamire played the 5. they played well and i remember marion with double double's all the time.
     
  16. Tsquare

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    I'm down with that trade.
     
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    Please god no.
     
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    Whoever takes Diop would get killed by his outrageous contract, that's why the Mavs traded him away in the past mid-season for a bench warmer and a garbage contract in Matt Caroll's.

    Considering the issues of both finance and game strategy, Brent Barry is the lest useful one on our team now and most likely to be removed in the offseason. Futhermore, there are tens of decent centers out there available in the FA market and it won't cost much to recruit them considering the depression in economy.
     
  19. red96

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    Whay do you guys think about this trade (warning long post? )

    HOU trades: T-Mac, Hayes, Lowry, Barry (with maybe a future 1st)
    HOU receives: M. Ellis, M. Camby, J. Crawford

    LAC trades: B-Diddy, Camby, Kaman
    LAC receives: T-Mac, Maggette, Lowry, Barry

    GS trades: Maggette, Crawford, Ellis
    GS receives: B-Diddy, Kaman, Hayes

    I know I know lose Lowry, Hayes, and Mac's fat expiring for Crawful. But just hear me out.

    1. We dont lose any of our starters
    2. We dont (really) add salary.
    3. We fill our few needs and become solid all around

    I like Lowry alot. He's cheap, young, a good playmaker and defender, and he takes it to the rim strong. And when he does he's almost guareented to get a trip to the line.

    But with Ellis we get a quicker, taller,and a better penatrater and finisher than Lowry. He can create his own shot and would also be right at home playing at the 2. He's not as good as Lowry defensively but he's the better player overall. Ellis's (23 years old) contract is 55 million for the next 5 years (which isnt bad just long). Add Brooks at the PG spot with him and opposing teams PG"s wont be able to take a play off. They would be able to penatrate at will against any team and finish at the rim. He might beatout Brooks for the starting job.

    I'd hate to lose Hayes because he's made so many great (sometimes game deciding) defensive plays for us. He's cheap, a good rebounder, plays good defence (our best post defender not named Yao), and hustles on every play. But we all know Chuck cant score without T-Mac spoon feeding him.

    Camby's a solid player that fills our need for a backup C and he could play the 4 if needed. He's 35 and makes alot (about 9.6 nest year) but he only has 1 year left on his conract. IMO we'd have the most talented 4/5 rotation in the league. He would be able to releive Yao for big minutes without us worrying about a big drop on offense or defense. He'd (arguably) be our 2nd best post defender. Think about it . We could finish games with a defensive lineup of
    Ellis
    Ron
    Shane
    Camby
    Yao


    Barry is our only sharpshooter but I think we'd be ok with Crawford backing up our wings (hold on I'll get to Crawford in a minute). I just dont see Barry as a necessity for this teams success.

    Now on to our old friend T-Mac. I have nothing personal against T-Mac. If anything i've been a T-Mac supporter since he was traded here. And I dont want to trade him because I think he's finished. From what I've read and heard, I honestly think he has a pretty good chance at comming back and being a productive player. Maybe even start where he left off. But before this season I thought to myself that if we dont make a big splash this post season (we did pretty good), 1 of Yao or Mac has to go (we know Yao's not going anywhere). I think we just need to know when our players are going to play and have them playing and gelling together before we start the season. And even if T-Mac does come back strong next offseason, I'm not sure he would even resign with us if we wanted him.
    I would probably use his expiring to pull this trade.

    And now for the moment you've all been waiting for. How can red rationally justify taking on Crawford and his bloated contract. Well first, Crawford isnt technically signed to any team next year. He has a 2 year player option worth around 19.5 million. But I count it as exercised because he would be a fool not to. With his talent and the leagues current economic position he'd never see another contract like that for the rest of his career (he was never worth it anyways). Well how is he worth trading for? I think he could be valuable to us in a JR Smith type role. He can drain it from downtown and put up 15-20 points for us at any moment. He fills in for T-Mac somewhat. He can handle the ball (playmake a little) and is surprizingly pretty clutch. He's not good defensively but with our current squad he wouldnt have to be great. Check out our lineup after this trade.

    Ellis or Brooks/Brooks or Ellis
    Ellis/Crawford/Ron
    Ron/Shane/White
    Scola/Landry/Camby
    Yao/Camby/Dorsey?

    I mean, what and where are our weaknesses? We add offence (and add a little defence) without lossing defence. We could really run any combination of Ron, Shane, Ellis, Crawford, and White at the 2 and 3. We'd be extremely versitile with this roster. We could defend the quicker athletic C's with Camby and the bigger guards with Ellis. We could run a big defensive squad with

    Ellis
    Shane
    Ron
    Camby (Camby's a great weak side defender)
    Yao

    Tell me what this squad could've done to the Lakers 3 weeks ago. IMO I think we'd be about to beat the magic in 5.

    Or a quick, fast breaking, penatrating squad with

    Brooks
    Ellis
    Ron, Shane, or Crawford
    Landry or Ron (and maybe with Scola)
    Camby

    Remember, we're not adding salary, we fill all need positions, we become more balanced (IMO the most balanced HOU team ive ever seen). We do add Crawford's bloated contract but its all about the end result. Look at R. Lewis for example, but Crawford's is nowhere near as big or long. Thoughts? Do yall think the other teams go for it? It does work in the trade checker.
     
  20. Marcus Bryant

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    Don't see Warriors ruining their future star along with two outrageous contracts, only for another two contracts which are even more outrageous and trashy. This trade is unrealistic unless Morey abducts their GM and force him to sign this deal, even with using some vicious intimidation.
     

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