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Yao Needs to Be Watching Howard

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by SageHare6, May 27, 2009.

  1. WeMissDekeMan

    WeMissDekeMan Rookie

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    It doesn't matter. Regardless Yao did have a huge impact on both ends. You fail miserably like you have been all thread long. Only a Tmac fan only fan would question his ability. Yao Ming had the Rebounds, inferior to Dwight, but at least double digit rebounds.
     
  2. WeMissDekeMan

    WeMissDekeMan Rookie

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    When did the Lakers triple team him? I saw doubles at best and not even as much as Yao gets. I love how you overrating Howard just so you can make Yao look bad. Probably some secret way of making your lover T-Mac better.
     
  3. absent2007

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    The superman just failed badly in first game, only 15 reb is a star statistic...

    1-6 FG 10-16 FT, so even superman is sucking for engulfing defense...watching Howard... :eek: :rolleyes:
     
  4. Tuan

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    If you guys think DH is better, why does Yao constantly own him? Nuff said :D.
     
  5. Artesticles

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    How is Howard vs Yao even a debate at this point? One player is healthy, the other is not, PERIOD! Even if all the statistics favored Yao, I would take the lesser talent that's more durable and can play every game than the more talented guy who's made out of glass.
     
  6. Lumix

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    What has Yao done to you 'superstar' which makes you hate him so much? Your hating on Yao is beyond my understanding.

     
  7. t_mac1

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    hopefully you'll grow up soon.

    comments like this make me wish we trade tmac so fast so i can have more knowledgeable discussions with more knowledgeable posters.
     
  8. t_mac1

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    b/c he DOES have a better offensive game. and yao IS better than howard offensively.

    but again, you have to take EVERYTHING into account as we're talking about the best overall center: rebounding, defense, shotblocking, injuries, stamina...along with offense.

    howard has everything but a great offensive game (good enough to get 22 pts in the playoffs).
     
  9. redao

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    he was talking about Yao nut-huggers. Yao is cool. his fans are not.
     
  10. el_locoteee

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    Why people still think DH offensive game will dramatically improve just because is 23?

    This is his 5th year and he had played every game of every season and log tons of MPG, and still no post game, no footwork, not a Hi basketball IQ, no touch.

    Let see other high school players.?

    KG by his 5th year stop his dramatic offensive improvement, pretty much the same the rest of the way (22-12).

    Kobe the same just got one huge statistical season when the Lakers sucks and he took all the shoot he wanted. (28-6-5) by his 5th year.

    T-Mac by his 4th year (27-8-5) almost the same the rest of the way even decreases.

    Amare 3rd year (26-9) dramatic improvement of his offensive game stop.

    Lebron highest PPG by his 3rd year.

    etc.

    I don't see Dwight dramatically improved his offensive game by any means.

    If after playing 15000 minutes you haven't develop a certain style of play you more likely will never develop one. He will be what he is now. The only thing more time will do your for your game are intangibles, like leadership, understanding of what it take to win, helping other etc.

    Stop the DH is only 23. history said otherwise.
     
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  11. JeopardE

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    Yes, Yao's health is no doubt his achilles heel.

    But the way I see it, last night's game was picture-perfect proof that Yao is still the best center in the basketball universe today.

    Howard did his thing against the mediocre frontlines in the Eastern Conference -- Perkins, Ilgauskas et al. But against a truly formidable front court like LA's, he looked rather ordinary and was easily neutralized in man coverage.

    Yao is the one guy at center that changes the game, regardless of who he's playing against. He is that guy that you sure as hell make sure he doesn't get the ball, and you center your entire defensive gameplan around making sure that he doesn't get the ball. Nate McMillan foolishly did not respect Yao's dominance, and Yao wiped the floor with his Blazers in one half. He learned his lesson quickly.

    Dwight Howard isn't that guy yet, despite his superior athleticism and box score prowess. There's a very good reason why he looks completely mediocre every time he plays Yao. And Orlando is in trouble, because unless they can find some magic potion for Jameer Nelson so he can play for more than 5 minutes without getting gassed, they will have no matchup advantages anywhere on the court (and to make matters worse, they have no defenders capable of even slowing down Kobe). This isn't exactly the type of story we should be writing about a team in the NBA finals.
     
  12. hanlong

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    I'm as close to a YOF as it gets (the only reason I became a rockets fan was the second the rockets drafted him back in 2002). live in LA (other team i cheer for is the lakers). anyways despite me loving yao to death, i have to admit if the rockets have dwight howard in these playoffs, they would've been NBA champions this year.

    can you imagine hosting a lineup of lowry/battier/artest/hayes/howard for defensive purposes? the other team is going to score 50 points night in and night out.
     
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    Who owns the matchup b/t dwill and cp3? Whos is better? One on one matchups aren't everything. Nuff said.
     
  14. Tuan

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    Truth is, Yao is a good overall player himself. He is very decent at rebounding and shot blocking, and while he isnt as good as Howard at these two categories, he is formidable. He may not block as many shots as Howard, but he changes a lot of shots. Yao is also a very good interior defensive player. His weaknesses at defense are guarding smaller players and the pick and roll.

    On offensive, he is miles ahead of Howard.
     
  15. Tuan

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    Ummm OK. Neither of them owns each other, and it is debatable whether you pick one or the other. Yao has constantly owned Howard. You analogy is a major FAIL.
     
  16. durvasa

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    Yes, if we discount drawing fouls, getting offensive rebounds, catching lobs, and finishing strong in traffic. Otherwise, I'd say they are pretty close.

    I also think they are closer defensively than many fans recognize. Yao is generally underrated on that end.
     
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  17. durvasa

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    You just did not watch Howard in the Cleveland series, if you're actually going to write that he doesn't have a post game. There are people on this board that actually think Howard is just a souped up Ben Wallace. These people are off their rocker.
     
  18. JBIIRockets

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    I hope he didn't watch Howard in Game 1.
     
  19. apxn82

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    I've said before and I'll say it again, both Yao and D-12 are closely rank overall. Howard is a lil better in D and Yao got more moves on O. They pretty much cancel each other out. However, you have to give D-12 the edge right now cause he stay on the court. Until Yao can prove that he dont get injure everytime he get on the court Howard will be the NUMBER 1.
    On the other, all you D-12 huggers that think his game is way ahead of Yao you need to stop smoking the GOOD STUFFS!
     
  20. fogo11606

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    I disagree with you. If you put Howard on the Rockets team you will have a offensively challenged team right there. Look at the magic starting 5 three out of five players on that lineup can create shots for themselves and can be matchup nightmare to any team and I wouldn't count on Scola being your first option either because when they play him more physically without Yao in the paint, you're asking for alot of block shots.

    Anyways Yao is the best center we can ask for this Rocket team the way how this team is built. Otherwise the only argument I can make at this point that Howard > Yao is durability. When healthy and playing 100% Yao gives you 20/10 to say the least and average 2 block shot a night. Given the minutes he's been playing upping his average is definitely not out of the question. But we all know it's impossible for Yao to be healthy all season if ever so I really hope this first real break Yao have can truly be a blessing in disguise.
     

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