1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

[ClutchFans] Top 5 Teams For Rockets To Plunder in Trades

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Jun 3, 2009.

  1. Tsquare

    Tsquare Member

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2008
    Messages:
    1,219
    Likes Received:
    3
    I definitely agree with the list Clutch. Suns are the #1 target and if we could get Amare and Barbosa OMG!! :eek: I wouldn't want to see Landry go but Amare would be a HUGE upgrade and can do what Landry does plus a lot more. And with Amare's contract expiring in 2010, it wouldn't be that big of a risk ala Ron Artest last season. Didn't even mention Barbosa. This guy is one of the fastest guys in the league, can score, and play both PG and SG. Barbosa>Tmac right now! I would piss my pants if we got them.


    2nd: New Orleans Hornets. All I want is Tyson Chandler... But Chris Paul would be nice too. :D Some here would rather take Camby over Chandler but Camby is too old now. I don't think he's (Camby) the same player he was a couple years back. Wouldn't mind seeing Camby on the team but I would put Chandler higher on my list.
     
  2. ChrisBosh

    ChrisBosh Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2006
    Messages:
    4,324
    Likes Received:
    294
    THe only trade I would hate to see is for Vince Carter, he has such a poor attitude, I'm sick of players like him (which includes tmac). You guys won't like this guy either....I mentioned the same thing of tmac when he got here...yes I'm always right :D
     
  3. leebigez

    leebigez Member

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2001
    Messages:
    15,771
    Likes Received:
    757
    Its what I've been saying for a while now. Tracy and barry for jackson,maggette, and turiaf. Yes we get 4 yrs of corey and jackson and 3 of rony, but it gives the rox everything they need. Jackson is the tough perimeter player who is more playmaker than ron. Maggette is the slashing swing off the bench who gets to the ft line a lot. Turiaf is the big who can play 4/5 that gives the team leverage against scola. He's a high energy shot blocker. This would allow the rox to let ron and wafer go.
     
  4. sammy

    sammy Member

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2002
    Messages:
    18,949
    Likes Received:
    3,528
    What's wrong with starting Barbosa at the pg position? He was the pg before Nash got there. We would be just fine with Barbaso/Lowry as our point guards of the future.
     
  5. blazer

    blazer Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2006
    Messages:
    45
    Likes Received:
    0
  6. BrooksBall

    BrooksBall Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2007
    Messages:
    20,568
    Likes Received:
    256
    I like that a lot, lee. If we can't land any of the big, big names (Nash, Paul, Amare, etc...), this may be a really good option. We would have a pretty strong rotation, addressing a lot of issues:

    Brooks/Lowry or vice versa
    Jackson/Maggette
    Battier/Maggette
    Scola/Landry/Hayes
    Yao/Turiaf

    When Yao is out we could truly push the ball with something like:

    Brooks
    Jackson
    Maggette
    Landry
    Turiaf

    We could also play Turiaf alongside Yao for certain matchups.

    I know names like Jackson and Maggette will scare off a lot of people around here but if you look at it from the angle of how many issues a move like this would address, it really becomes more palatable. We'd go from having one true scoring wing in Wafer to having two in Jackson and Maggette, with Maggette joining Lowry as two players who are phenomenal at getting to the line. We'd add Turiaf who is precisely the type of 4/5 that can play alongside Yao or back him up. Imagine accomplishing all this out of McGrady's contract, esp. given the doubt about whether McGrady will even be able to contribute this season.

    This kind of trade may not be as flashy as the ones involving Nash, Amare, etc... but it has some pretty good selling points. Plus, I think it may be a lot more feasible than these other proposals involving the biggest names.
     
  7. xiki

    xiki Member

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2002
    Messages:
    17,819
    Likes Received:
    3,168
    Oh, contraire. It has to help. But only works if an extension can be worked out IMHO.

    However IMHO Suns will trade Shaq to Cleveland. That makes every sense to me. Then swapping Amar'e is much less likely.
     
  8. mikol13

    mikol13 Protector of the Realm
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2009
    Messages:
    14,313
    Likes Received:
    28,362
    Incredible read! I know its a long shot but my biggest want is Paul and Chandler from the list. Morey and Les are def capable of making something great happen
     
  9. xiki

    xiki Member

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2002
    Messages:
    17,819
    Likes Received:
    3,168
    Dunleavy Jr? McG would bring him - but first you'd have to take back Tinsley. Probably TJ, too. Then give them Lowry. Worth it? Not to me.

    Would Baron Davis and Kamen also net Gordon? It would have to for me.

    Chandler himself would have to bring something special, and Peja is special - in the negtive definition thereof.

    To get Ellis, my fav, you would also have to take back Crawford. Biedrins would have to be in there which would also likely cost Brooks. This one I'd do.

    McG for Vinsanity? Insanity.

    Prince and Rip? Maybe. They'd want Amir in, + someone and I suspect Sheed coming back on an SnT. But that would be McG and Shane.

    Shane for the #5 and Thomas? Not impossible.

    The best perception is the one Chad Ford made which I trust all GMs are monitoring. Tracy McGrady, workoutaholic. Poised to prove all the naysayers wrong.

    But, when is best to strike? First, early this summer. Or february?

    Thanks, Clutch. Good reading, and thinking.
     
  10. TheGreat

    TheGreat Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2008
    Messages:
    5,747
    Likes Received:
    423
    Would you guys

    Ron Artest (Sign n' Trade)
    Carl Landry
    Brent Barry

    for

    Caron Butler
    Antwaan Jamison
     
  11. xiki

    xiki Member

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2002
    Messages:
    17,819
    Likes Received:
    3,168
    Minny is the wildcard IMHO. New M, what is his philosophy? How will be affect the overall domino effect with draft picks and/or draft pick trades.

    Philly - what will they do with Brand and Dalembaert? I would love Brand and Dre (SnT) coming in for McG and Lowry. It works on so many levels.
     
  12. BasketballReasons

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    5,045
    Likes Received:
    237
    I would add Memphis to that list. They are always willing to trade with anyone and have been great partners, such as the Kings. Thank you for Lowry and Artest.
     
  13. blender

    blender Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2002
    Messages:
    1,972
    Likes Received:
    6
    I don't know, it seems like the Warriors would be giving up too much for just McGrady and Barry. But it would definitely give the Rockets some scoring punch.
     
  14. GOAT

    GOAT Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2008
    Messages:
    1,312
    Likes Received:
    1
    if we are keeping tracy yes i would do this.
     
  15. GOAT

    GOAT Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2008
    Messages:
    1,312
    Likes Received:
    1
    I would deal with the Bucks personally.

    Our package would be Tracy, Cook, Landry, Brooks, Barry. Houston's total in salaries 33 million with only Landry being guranteed after 2010, but pretty sure they will pick up Brooks team option.

    Bucks package would be Redd, Villanueva, Sessions, and Gadzuric. Bucks total in salaries before S&T 23 million. That is a little over 10 million dollars left to spend between Villanueva and Sessions. Sessions around 3 and Villanueva in the 7 range which I think is fair for the 2 of them.


    We would have to take Gadzuric's contract back probaly which might not be so bad with him being a 7 footer and he and Redd both coming off the books in 2011 (not low risk but not that high either).

    Bucks will go for this just because Brooks and Landry are cheap players who still are growing and plus more than anything it will save them 26 million. It also keeps them from losing Sessions and Villanueva for nothing which is a win win for them.

    Rockets re sign Artest and Wafer and this is why Houston will do it

    Sessions, Lowry
    Redd, Wafer, White
    Shane, Ron
    Scola, Villanueva
    Yao, Gadzuric

    After all this you still have Mid level if you don't use all on Wafer or if you find someone other than Wafer to spend it on.

    By making this trade Rockets will address all there needs dealing with one team, bigger/upgrade at pg, a 7 footer, more scoring from bench, and a wing who can shoot and create his own shot. We add all that to a team who took the Fakers to 7 and I say we can beat them. Plus we don't get to old
     
  16. Alvin Choo

    Alvin Choo Member

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2007
    Messages:
    3,466
    Likes Received:
    152
    dun like the amare and barbosa trade. Neither play defense, neither play team ball.

    I would rather much have a trade that includes the Raptors, Chris Bosh. Legit 20-10 player. And he do play defense.
     
  17. battousai

    battousai Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2006
    Messages:
    1,081
    Likes Received:
    5
    I the list alot, but i think there are other teams that could be added along. Specially when those that are looking for expiring contract for 2010 wih us having 23 mil in Tmac.

    If we are going to trade for Camby, chandler, or Amare. Why not take a shot at getting Bosh?

    Camby - great defensive player, but with his age and contract, it may not worth it

    Chandler - problem seeing him playing along side Yao or even be a backup center with his price tag and health condition

    Amare - certainly a great addition, but would our playing style fits him? can we afford to sign him after his contract expired? certain, we will be given up some young and pieces for him. we have to be able to sign him to be worth it.

    We need a backup 5 - which can be solved by number of ways. either a starter 4 who can play 5 while yao is on the bench and lead our second faster unit. Which would be the best ideal with either Bosh or Amare.

    We also need a closer, go to guy at the end, someone like tmac when he was healthy.

    If everyone is worry about their cap and money and yet rockets are making some, then no doubt this is our best chance to get some important pieces now.

    Vince may not be a bad idea, he can at least play, however, i think we have better options. I hate to see us go out and get "protential" scorers like ellis or any other young players. they haven't been tested and they are young and immature.

    why not take a shot to see if we can get wade?
     
  18. Sweet Lou 4 2

    Sweet Lou 4 2 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2007
    Messages:
    39,181
    Likes Received:
    20,334
    These deals are so hard to predict....and they are dream scenarios. It will be an intriguing off-season.
     
  19. Drew_Le

    Drew_Le Member

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2001
    Messages:
    718
    Likes Received:
    78
    Monta Ellis is a bigger, better, more consistent Aaron Brooks. He is a matchup nightmare in a league that has catered to quickness and guards over strength. While Brooks certainly looked good in the playoffs, Ellis would have dominated much more so given the same opportunity.

    I really like the Rockets giving up

    TMac + Brooks + throw ins

    for

    Ellis + Turiaf + salary match.

    Turiaf is a perfect compliment big man: high energy, great shot blocker, solid mid-range game.

    Hopefully the salary match is anyone but Corey Maggette or Stephen Jackson. If we have to take on either of those contracts, we cannot resign Artest (a team can only take so many chuckers/ball stoppers/potential cancers).
     
  20. BimaThug

    BimaThug Resident Capologist
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 1999
    Messages:
    8,421
    Likes Received:
    5,142
    For all of those wanting the Rockets to make a major trade with the Milwaukee Bucks, ask yourselves this question:

    Why would the Bucks agree to sign-and-trade Ramon Sessions and/or Charlie Villanueva in exchange for taking back MORE salary from Houston?

    Sessions and Villanueva are each going to want at least $6-7M per season. If the Bucks sign-and-trade them along with another contract to the Rockets in exchange for T-Mac, they would essentially be INCREASING their team payroll by at least $7M in 2009-10. I don't think it would be worth it to Milwaukee, even if they might save some money in later years. For instance, why not wait until 2010 to trade those bad contracts, when they might be able to get a little more for them. Meanwhile, they don't suffer the additional payroll they would have had to take on with T-Mac's deal.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now