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what's up with that The Rocket Guy from hoopsworld?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by watchmen77, Jun 11, 2002.

  1. watchmen77

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    http://www.hoopsworld.com/article_163.shtml

    ok, i am supporting trade num1 pick to clippers for odem and 2 picks.
    but this guy just starting making up all the facts.

    Notice the difference? The Rockets and the Chinese agree to share Ming as long as neither team's schedules are interrupted. HELLO! The Sharks are playing tournaments right now, the NBA playoffs are going on.

    he sounds like sharks want yao to play for them while his in nba. HELLO???????????????????????????????????????????

    Yao will NOT play for sharks if he is in the nba, he only plays for china's national team. i wonder how can this guy get this wrong. i wonder if he is nyrule.

    Zhizhi dominated Ming in every way, shape, and form, and remains the most popular player in China.


    hmmmmmm.....seems he didn't do his homework at all. yao started to dominate wang just last season. wang can't even play him inside. plus wang is a premiere player even in china, while ming is a 5. both wang and baeter can't play ming inside, anyone knows that if he ever watch cba when they play together.


    Yao Ming never won a Chinese championship until Wang Zhizhi left to play for the Dallas Mavericks.

    does he know that rockets has 3 or 4 players on the chinese national while sharks
    only had ming and another very young guard that just got picked?

    Yes, at 7'1" 220 Wang dominated Ming.

    No, ming clearly dominated wang.
    wang didn't go inside when ming is playing him.


    this just so crap it's not even funny.
     
  2. Possum

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    He will say anything, even make things up to get hits. Do not trust what he says. Consider it his opinion not fact.
     
  3. cwww

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    The Rocket Guy's Article about Ming

    here's The Rocket Guy's article about Ming posted at Hoopsworld.com... I think this guy is anti-Ming and not all he mentioned are true...

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    It's always important to have a back-up plan. The Rockets give the confidence speech very well, and the Chinese have received them in grand fashion as talks begin in Shanghai about the future of China's Yao Ming. It looks like one big happy family ready to have a celebration feast . . .but that's just the surface. If you listen to what both sides are saying, you hear diametrically opposed points of view being expressed in the nicest of ways.

    CHINA: The Chinese are confident that an agreement can be reached that will enable Yao Ming to play in the NBA while still satisfying his responsibilities to the Shanghai Sharks and playing in international competitions. The Chinese would also like to have re-broadcast rights to Rockets games, access to Houston coaches for international basketball clinics, and a no-trade clause.

    HOUSTON: The Rockets are in full support of the Shanghai Sharks and of Yao Ming's playing in international tournaments for China, provided that there is no conflict with the Rockets' schedule. Houston is also telling China that they plan to keep Yao Ming long-term. The Rockets have not publicly addressed the possibility of their coaching staff putting itself at the disposal of the Chinese.

    THE NBA: The collective bargaining agreement does not allow for a no-trade clause. Other than that, the league will allow the Rockets to negotiate with complete autonomy. David Stern said it is no business of the NBA's whom the Rockets draft as long as league rules (not international laws) are followed.

    Notice the difference? The Rockets and the Chinese agree to share Ming as long as neither team's schedules are interrupted. HELLO! The Sharks are playing tournaments right now, the NBA playoffs are going on. If the Rockets were in the NBA Finals, they would be there without Yao Ming. Does this constitute a disruption of the Rockets' season? I would say it does. A 7'5" 255 pound disruption.

    Let's lay all of that aside for a moment. Let's say that somehow the Rockets and the Sharks come to an agreement that allows BOTH teams to warp the lunar calendar and have Yao Ming whenever they need him. Fine. The bigger question is: IS YAO MING THE BEST PROSPECT IN THE DRAFT???

    Ask anyone. Jay Williams is the only clear immediate impact player in this summer's draft class. If the Rockets don't have Steve Francis, they pick Williams, look like genuises, and never have a second thought about it. Having Steve Francis makes this a little stickier. Now we have to look at the best player who is NOT a point guard. That takes out two of the top three players in the draft (with Memphis' Dajaun Wagner being the other). The Rockets may need a center, but let's not get carried away by Ming's 7'5" frame.

    Yao Ming never won a Chinese championship until Wang Zhizhi left to play for the Dallas Mavericks. Zhizhi dominated Ming in every way, shape, and form, and remains the most popular player in China. Wow! Zhizhi must be tearing up the league for Dallas, right? Well . . .not exactly. In 55 games this season, Wang averaged 5.6 points, 2 rebounds, and .3 blocks per game. Yes, at 7'1" 220 Wang dominated Ming. THIS is who we are talking about drafting #1? I'm glad the Rockets have a workout scheduled with Jay Williams after they return from China.

    The Rockets will regret this decision. The best thing that can happen is that the talks in China run aground with Wang's apparently impending defection spooking the Chinese, and Houston takes Williams with the first pick. The Clippers are waiting for the phone call that means Olowokandi will be a Rocket. Again, I say: MAKE THE DEAL.

    by The Rocket Guy
    for HOOPSWORLD.com
    Jun 10, 2002, 11:00am


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    "Notice the difference? The Rockets and the Chinese agree to share Ming as long as neither team's schedules are interrupted. HELLO! The Sharks are playing tournaments right now, the NBA playoffs are going on. If the Rockets were in the NBA Finals, they would be there without Yao Ming. Does this constitute a disruption of the Rockets' season? I would say it does. A 7'5" 255 pound disruption."

    I wonder if this guy knows anything... the Sharks are NOT playing any tournaments now! the ChBA season ended at April! Yao is now playing for his national team!!! and Yao will NOT play for his club Shanghai Sharks once he started to play for the Rockets...

    "Yao Ming never won a Chinese championship until Wang Zhizhi left to play for the Dallas Mavericks. Zhizhi dominated Ming in every way, shape, and form, and remains the most popular player in China. Wow! Zhizhi must be tearing up the league for Dallas, right? Well . . .not exactly. In 55 games this season, Wang averaged 5.6 points, 2 rebounds, and .3 blocks per game. Yes, at 7'1" 220 Wang dominated Ming. THIS is who we are talking about drafting #1? I'm glad the Rockets have a workout scheduled with Jay Williams after they return from China."

    Once again it proves that he knows nothing about Chinese Basketball and he's anti-Ming! Zhizhi dominated Ming in every way??? Wang's ex-team Bayi Rockets won every title before this season because there are lots of good players surrounding him, but Yao's Sharks are clearly a one-man-do-it-all team... the stats say it all...
     
  4. Dave2000

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    After I read that, I am having some doubts now. He does bring up a good point bout the battles between ZhiZhi and Yao. Can anybody confirm this? Is it really true that Wang dominated Ming during his times in the CBA?
     
  5. Possum

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    You shouldn’t believe anything the RocketGuy says. To put it politely, he’s full of ****. :(
     
  6. watchmen77

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    i was working in shanghai a year ago. watched few games. ming wasn't that great at that time, his f/t only about 60% i think. and i can't really compare him and wang since chinese play a LOT zone, ming usually hangs inside and wang..o well, let's put this way, if ming is there, wang won't go inside. so i can't say he dominates ming or not. he shoots a lot threes when they play shanghai. clearly no one can compete inside with ming. on offence, ming usually plays inside and they have wang and another guy at 7foot, a young gun who is only 19, or another guy who is 6.9 pf to double team him everytime, but the game i saw yao still scored over 30 points. so i won't say wang dominated ming. i think that is another way around.
     
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    As cwww mentioned, Ming is the only quality player in his team whereas the Bayi Rockets has many. Ming's numbers were significantly higher than Wang's, so how can The Rocket Guy reasonably conclude that Wang dominated Ming?(I don't have a link or remember the exact numbers to substantiate this but it's a fact!)

    Let's take the current Lakers team, minus Kobe, in the conference finals against the Kings. I'm sure the Kings would have won. Would The Rocket Guy say that Vlade dominated Shaq?

    The Rocket Guy didn't mention Wang's playing time, which is around 10 minutes. 10 minutes with those kind of numbers isn't bad. (Wang do lack defense though)
     
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    This guy has some points, but saying that ming never won until wang was gone is rediculous. Wow...yao is 21 and only won one championship?....that's rediculous. Not to be to hard on this Rocket Guy though, I agree with him to a certain extent. I hope we trade the pick, draft a quality guy from the 3-5 position(via trade) and pray we didn't make a mistake in taking either Jay or Yao. Also, I'm not sure if their playoff system is win or go home. If it is, then one good shooting game could easily beat yao's team because all the adjustments couldn't be made and the opposing team could be shooting well that day.

    my two cents

    P.S. Draft Caron, his destiny is not controlled by a government.
     
  10. GATER

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    It appears someone has their teams and seasons mixed up. The Sharks have already won the CBA for 2001-2002 and definitely are NOT playing right now. The CBA season runs from approximately mid-December to mid-April. There is almost no chance of a scheduling conflict unless both teams are in the playoffs and the Rockets will have that worked out in advance...bet on it.

    The Chinese National Team is playing right now and those availability details will be worked out when the Rocket delegation goes to Beijing.
     
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    In 2002-2001, both Wang and Yao were playing in CBA.

    Points:
    Yao Ming:27.6 (third place)
    Wang: 25.6 (fifth place)

    Rebound:
    Yao: 19.4
    wang: didn't find his name in the first five.

    Block:
    Yao: much better than Wang.

    Yao was the MVP that year.

    http://www.asia-basket.com/chn/d1.asp
     
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    Yes, politely put, "he is full of ****"

    I quit looking at his crap a year ago ... he has never been accurate about any thing!
     
  14. CriscoKidd

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    I would just like to echo these sentiments.

    He is either a liar or he absolutely has no clue. I can't decide which.
     
  15. Darth West

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    Its not like these two options are mutually exclusive ... :)
     
  16. ROXTXIA

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    The Rocket Guy makes stuff up, or he takes a small fact and blows it up.

    Case in point: last week, he wrote, "Apparently Wang Zhi Zhi has DEFECTED!!!" When that was not confirmed at all. He exaggerates to reinforce his own opinions. Certainly the less discerning web surfer might buy into it.

    I'll still glance over there sometimes when I'm really, really, really, really bored.
     
  17. Baqui99

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    The Rocket Guy: the epitome of a dumb Aggie.
     
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    Here's his latest weiner. Er, winner: apparently someone told him the Chinese expect us to build them an arena (TRG seems to be a bit of an idiot savant, capable of running a web site, not capable of normal thinking):

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    Chris Marrs of our Hoopsworld staff is reporing that the Chinese expect the Rockets to build them an arena in Shanghai as part of the deal if they agree to let Ming go. Uh - NO!

    Can we please have a dose of logic here? Take Jay Williams and be done with it. Let someone else deal with the headaches that come with encounters with greedy communists.
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    Of course, if this was true, I'd be the first to compliment TRG on the scoop.

    Maybe we can use public funds to build them an arena, too? That'd go over well in Houston! :)
     
  19. The Cat

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    TRG is anti-Ming. He's not clueless; he's a liar. Nowhere has it even remotely been said that Wang dominated Yao in the CBA... he just makes up facts to make his own viewpoint sound stronger.
     
  20. Live

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    It's simple:

    Clutchcity.net is to the Wall Street Journal as The Rocket Guy\BskBall\Hoopsworld is to The National Enquirer\The Star.

    The next big 'scoop' from 'Da Racket Boway':
    The Rockets want to build a new arena, say The Summit is out-dated.
     
    #20 Live, Jun 11, 2002
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