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Another Cop Acting Badly

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Rocket River, May 28, 2009.

  1. Rocket River

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    [rquoter]PADEN, Oklahoma -- Following a dispute between an Oklahoma Highway Trooper and paramedics that was caught on tape, both sides defended their case.


    The trooper in question, identified in newly-released documents as Daniel Martin, is under investigation by his own department. This comes after video of him trying to arrest a Creek Nation paramedic in the middle of a transport made headlines nationwide.

    The video shows a violent confrontation between first responders outside of an ambulance, as a patient inside waits for medical care.

    Watch the raw footage of the fight captured on a camera phone.

    Now, Trooper Daniel Martin, who placed his hands around the neck of a paramedic, is the subject of an internal investigation, although he and his partners remain on duty.

    "The highway patrol officers, the troopers, are not being placed on any kind of administrative leave," OHP Captain Chris West said. "If the investigation shows there were some violations of department policy or procedure, we'll address those accordingly."

    OHP claims the dispute started after the ambulance failed to yield to troopers who were responding to a call. Once the troopers finished their official business, they pulled over the ambulance as paramedics were transporting a patient inside. That patient was Kenyada Davis' mother. Davis shot video of the confrontation after paramedics were pulled over.

    "We're like trying to tell the guy, 'Dude, my mom is in the back,'" Kenyada Davis said. "My stepdad was like, 'My wife is in the back. Can we do this at the hospital?'"

    Both paramedics released statements they made to Creek Nation officials.

    According to Paramedic Paul Franks, he told Trooper Martin, "We have a patient enroute to Prague E.R. If you would follow us, we would sort this out afterwards."

    He said Martin told him, "get your 'blank' in my vehicle. I'm giving you a ticket right now."

    At that point, Maurice White, the other paramedic, said he exited the rear of the ambulance to make a similar plea. Trooper Martin tried to arrest him and after a brief struggle he returned to the back of the ambulance.

    OHP dash cameras recorded the first confrontation between the men. Prosecutors now have that tape, which they say shows Maurice White assaulting Trooper Martin.

    Now the Okfuskee County District Attorney's office said they are reviewing the dash-cam video and all the other evidence surrounding this case, but right now no decision has been made as to whether charges will be filed against anyone involved in the confrontation.

    Creek Nation EMS Officials wouldn't comment on the possibility of criminal charges, but they did say both paramedics remain on duty.[/rquoter]
     
  3. Rashmon

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    Was it these guys?

    [​IMG]

    They deserved it.
     
  4. Dairy Ashford

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    Incidentally, probably the best acting Bill Cosby, Bruce Davison and Larry Hagman have ever done.
     
  5. edwardc

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    That trooper was in the wrong not the medic.
     
  6. Rashmon

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    Agreed. A pretty good movie.
     
  7. Hicklander

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    Can we say a trooper had a ego trip?...
     
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    According to the report, the medic had assaulted the officer earlier, and it was caught by the surveillance camera on the squad car. Sounds to me like they were both in the wrong.
     
  9. Lil Pun

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    Is there some kind of law in Oklahoma regarding which emergency vehicle has the right-of-way? If not, the troopers are in the wrong for starting the events that took place.
     
  10. Rocket River

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    1. I'd like to see the other tape
    2. A choke Hold is never warrented
    . . . Aren't the cops suppose to be the 'better man' in this situation

    If any non police man . . used the defense . . HE HIT ME 1st!!
    no one would buy it

    Rocket River
     
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    I would too.
    Cops are human, though he should have used better judgement
    They would believe that defense if caught on tape.
     
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    Maybe you wont be, but I think you will be surprised what kind of things end up being an assault charge on a police officer...
     
  13. FlyerFanatic

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    whatever happened to WWR I think his username was. He used to get all fired up about these types of threads :D
     
  14. Ottomaton

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    It appears that in Oklahoma, it is common for police departments teach the choke hold as an appropriate technique to subdue violent suspects.
     
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    Wow.....I wonder who will defend this despicable behavior? :rolleyes:
     
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    I saw both videos and there was no assault on the trooper just a paramedic trying to figure out what the hell is going on.

    What I don't understand is why does the ambulance have to yield to the trooper? In a medical emergency shouldn't the ambulance take precedence?
     
  18. juicystream

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    Where is the other video?
     
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    What if a patient died due the cops doing this. Could the cop be charged with murder?
     

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