I'd much prefer Noah over TT. Isn't TT renowned for his lack of effort? This would not suit the current rockets team.
Good God no. He's one of the dumbest and laziest defensive players to ever play professional basketball.
Tyrus Thomas is much better this year as compared to last. TT is probably not worth the money he make or will demand later.
They've got two players like that (Scola and Landry), so I don't consider that a huge need. Noah brings length, athleticism, all-out effort and enthusiasm. Also, don't be surprised to see Yao playing more away from the low post next season.
Exactly...a taller version of Chuck Hayes is kind of exactly what we need right now. Noah gets all his points by hustling around? Well, golly, he must be useless then. Noah played slightly fewer minutes in the regular season and scored less, but shot 56% to Tyrus' 45%, grabbed more boards, had more assists and fewer turnovers and blocks were a wash. Plus Noah was a +0.2 Roland rating compared to Thomas' -3.1 (see www.82games.com). Similarly, Noah has a higher PER rating. Finally, add in the fact that one stepped up during the playoffs and the other didn't...AND Noah gets paid less. Yes, Tyrus is more "versatile", more "athletic" and probably has a bigger offensive arsenal...BUT, we don't need any more low efficiency players, which he is. On the contrary, while that seems logical, FACTS aren't working for you. www.nba.com/hotspots Look it up yourself. With the sole exception of one section of the court, Landry pretty much outshoots Tyrus everywhere - in close, jumpers, you name it. What's worse, is that Tyrus not only takes his fair share of jumpers, but (ignoring a couple of threes, he shot 8 all year), he is across the board highly inefficient when he does it - he shoots 55% right at the basket (which in itself is pretty odd, I mean you're at the basket...Landry by comparison shoots 67% there, Yao and Scola, 59% in that area), and everywhere else is under 43%. In fact, with the exception of one baseline area on the court where he shoots that 42.5%, he shoots 40.5% from right at the top of the key free throw line, and under 40% from everywhere else. In some instances, he is particularly bad - it looks like the 5-12 foot baseline jumper on the opposite side of where he is "ok", he shoots 33%. He also shoots 33% from right inside the free throw line. Again, let's not let facts get in the way. Go back to prior seasons if you want - it's not any better. So, basically his J isn't anywhere close to as good as Landry's. The rest is subjective, though I'd disagree again. As noted, even in close, for whatever reason, he shoots worse than Landry there - so I can only guess he isn't dunking it all the time when he gets it down there anyway, and while he likely does run the floor better than Landry, the Rockets aren't a fast breaking team. While the Bulls aren't exactly vintage Nash led Phoenix Suns, they did score over 102 a game last year. Thomas gets his fair share of opportunities. And finally, he's an underachiever. Everyone sees he should produce more, but he doesn't, for whatever reason. In conclusion, adding Tyrus Thomas does little for the team.
Did it ever occur to anybody to ask yourself why Chicago would be "heavily shopping" this guy? You know, their 22-year-old former top five pick that has boatloads of upside unless there was a compelling reason to do so. If these reports are true it means either, (A) Chicago is unhappy with him or (B) Chicago thinks his trade value is high enough to net them somebody better.
My point is Noah doesn't bring much offense to our team. He hustle alot so great. Doesn't Chuck hayes do this? I agree Chuck is shorter but his strength out weight Noah's length. We already have 2 top defenders on this team. We don't need another defender that bring minimum offense.
What we need is exactly what Noah brings...LENGTH. As much as you want to pat Chuck on the back and say, way to help keep us in the game, it was painfully obvious that he was just too short against the Lakers front line. Do I think Noah will be a Pau Gasol stopper? Of course not, but for all the great hustle boards Hayes got, he was often out-heighted for rebounds himself. In Game 7, the Rockets got outrebounded 55 to 33. That's embarrassing. Gasol had 18 rebounds. Including 6 offensive. I like Chuck, but he is just too short. Noah is more of a Yao backup than anything else. All that said, Noah does not appear to be on the trade blocks. Nor should he be. Of Noah / Thomas, Chicago is making the right decision in trying to get rid of Thomas and get a "real" PF.
As i said, Chicago is one of the teams that i think the Rockets should make a deal with. Tmac for Deng+Thomas will do!!
Scola is money from 15 and he's not going anywhere. Noah would be a perfect backup to Yao or he can even get major minutes at the 5 spot if we decide to go small (now that we have somewhat of a transition game) since he's very good at running the floor. Noah is exactly the type of player we need/want in terms of the hustle, toughness, energy and grit he brings add to the fact that he's damn near 7 ft and mobile and you he fits our mold perfectly. He's not your typical "enforcer" from a looks standpoint but he's scrappy and I think he'd be a great fit. With that said there's a reason why the Bulls would rather deal Thomas.
Thomas has a bad rap. Watch Morey crunch the numbers to show how he's always been an athletic freak with a defensive propensity that would contribute greatly to a team with higher standards than the Bulls. The dude gets blocks like crazy, can jump out the building for his size, and might just need a fresh start. If we get him I'll totally be on the bandwagon. Then again, if we don't then he obvi must be a bust bc Morey wouldn't not trade for anything that wasn't going to be a bust.
Chicago wants to get a legitimate Post threat for him...Bosh and Amare....I doubt they trade him for anyone else.
I agree with you on all the stuffs about NOAH being longer and hustle player. However, unless we're trading someone else Landry play an intricate part to our second unit offense. Before he got shot in the leg he give us around 10 to 15 a night coming off the bench. The second unit suppose to go in and be instant offense. Noah is anything but INSTANT OFFENSE. I don't mind him backing Yao but it should be the expense of someone else not Landry. Since you guys think he's way better then Chuck why not trade them Chuck, cook, white and whomever. For some reason it sound to me people are hating on Chuck and Landry. Don't forget Landry was awsome before the gun shot. I'm sure he;ll be back to his old form start of next season.
Scola was our hero during the playoff run but I dont know about "MONEY from 15". The blazers played 0 defense on him so torched them. Totally different story with the lakers series. He was almost none exist in some of the game.
Code: MP FG% FT% TRB PTS Tyrus Thomas 27.5 0.451 0.783 6.4 10.8 Carl Landry 21.3 0.574 0.813 5 9.2 I don't see how anyone could say we need Tyrus Thomas in any way.
Yeah and I don't see them trading Tyrus for Landry, they can get the same thing they get from Thomas that we get from Landry so I don't understand why they would do that trade. They want someone they can throw it down to in the post. While Amare isn't that though, (Bosh is) He still scores in the paint with ease.
