Brooks or Lowry: who has more upside?

Not necessarily at every aspect of offense. Lowry is already clearly better at getting to the line. Reports seem to indicate he is a better playmaker, as you alluded to, which is considered offense. He's also a better offensive rebounder based on those reports, which is offense-related.

We'll see how it plays out but Lowry seems to be far more multi-dimensional than Brooks.

I'll be happy no matter how it plays out. I am a believer that we had to go in a different direction, with or without McGrady.

 

Gonna use some player references here. This is like the way scaled down version Francis vs Baron, Paul vs Deron comparisons.

The one I'd pick to Ramon Sessions-style fill up the stat sheet is Lowry. Brooks can do that as he's shown in summer league and the D league. Brooks does it more in a 2 guard using offense to set up everything else, though thats not really a knock.

Not like Lowry's the greatest facilitator but Lowry has more ability to use his defense to ignite his offense. Lowry has more Battier in him to effect the game without scoring than Brooks.

Then team fit factors in. Kenny Smith's shooting was valued in the inside-out game with Hakeem, though people figured his backup Sam Cassell mighta been a better all-around point guard. So Brooks might be the Kenny to Lowry's Cassell here. I am anxious though to see how Lowry plays on an actual good team with a better foundation.

Lowry is close to a max effort player. Which is good but if thats his lone approach it could make him more a Bobby Jackson type say an Andre Miller type.

 

I think the result show that we don't have a dependable PG

 

I don't know much about Lowry's level.

But I think trading Alston for him and a useless Cook is not a good choice right now.

 

He hasn't done **** yet but half the people on this board say he has more upside then AB. HAAAAAAAAAAAA! If you guys didn't happen to check what the Grizzles community thinks of Lowry and what they said about him being traded, then you all might change your mind on him. He's just gonna be a bench warmer and maybe a 6th man at best.


****, go look on the Magic boards to get a perspective of what they think about Rafer Alston coming there and most of you will laugh your ass off.

 

There was a game several weeks back where Brooks missed a key FT in the closing seconds of a game we were trying to close out.

Brooks is a 90% FT shooter while Lowry is under 80%.

But where Brooks looked nervous and hesitant in that situation, Lowry would have jumped at that challenge and confidently converted both freebies. The kid is fearless.

As far as who starts, for now at least Brooks should get the nod not just because he is obviously more familiar with the team and playbook, but also b/c his 3-point shooting will compliment Yao's inside-out game. But down the road I have little doubt that Lowry will be the better player of the two.

 

Kyle Lowry .He is a better passer than Brooks . AB would be better suited to come off the bench.

 

What does each one need to improve on?

Brooks needs: passing vision, running plays better, more maturity and confidence running the team, improve his finish around the rim.

Lowry needs: more maturity and confidence running the team, some sort of floater in the lane (he's in the lane all the time, but it's always a layup attempt), a consistent jumpshot.

Those are just offensively, they both have room for improvement, lots of which is just playing time and confidence in themselves as the lead guard.

As for defensively, Lowry will be a better player vs certain matchups since he can handle the stronger guys like Williams as well as quick guys.

Overall I say Lowry has the higher ceiling because it's alot easier to develop a good jumper than to develop those PG skills. In order for Brooks to have a huge game, he's got to be scoring the ball, Lowry can affect the game doing other things.

 

Oh come on, how many threads with polls are we going to get basically asking the same question....

UGH..if this offseason is going to be nothing but these tired arguments...it is gonna be REAL REAL long...

dang.

DD

 

Brooks.


Lowry is the stronger body but both are unfortunately, too short to ever be great defensive point guards and stop other team point guards that are taller from ever just shooting over them most of the time. So the defensive advantage isn't as significant for me.

I think Brooks can get better at passing and game management, maybe not as good as Lowry could ultimately develop into but he is the quicker of the two, the better scorer and has a 3 point shot. Which in a starting lineup that has shown the most consistent scorer to be Luis Scola on any given game, having another scoring option is needed. Now that Brooks barely had half a season playing backup last year and now he has half a season starting and a good playoff run. The way I see it, we haven't even seen the best of him yet.


Although, the current setup is far from that bad, as they both bring something to the table.

 

wasn't this your idea to bump this thread? I think it's one of the better debates going right now.

I think it's Lowry's stock that is on the rise an Ab has shown us his highest value already.

 

i really don't see Lowry as a starting PG in this league. he is good at setting the team up, but i dont feel the "it" factor from him. i dont know if he wants the PG spot as bad as brooks.

 

I didn't vote, as I normally don't vote in polls.

As many has said, it's probably too early to make the call. But I think Lowry has showed more to be good in the future.

I think Lowry is mentally tougher than AB is, although AB has showed he can knock down big shots in big games. Lowry seems to be approaching any game with the same style and attitude - tough on defense, fearless in driving, looking for contact, and dishing in traffic.

AB has a better shooting game right now, that's for sure. But Lowry showed better decision making skills, which is very critical for a PG. Not talking about passing to Yao, but decision making in transition. For example game 7 against Lakers, on one fastbreak, Scola was running hard ahead and kept looking for the pass, AB in the middle with the ball. Anyone playing a pickup game would probably hit the easy bounce pass to Scola at his right front, but AB hesitated and then jumped in the air trying to pass back, resulted in a TO.

Besides, AB's build doesn't allow him to be a good defensive player.

Morey talked about tweaking a little bit of Lowry's shot. As some have said already, that competition among the 2 young guards will only mean good things for the Rockets.

 

Lowry is really really showing what he can do... I think he's going to be another AB case where the second season with the team he turns into a beast by play offs... it's his skills at going hard and coming out with a foul that amaze me. He's great at it. He just need a more solid shot and he's be a threat.

AB has low BB IQ... he does a lot of fast things, but tends to make a lot of dumb mistakes. He loses focus.

 

I think Brooks will be more, like a TJ Ford or Earl Boykins with a great 3 point range.

I think Lowry could be more of a Derek Fisher type point guard lacking the 3 point range, but way more aggressive to the basket.


If this organization is truly smart, I would keep both of them.

 

DD complaining about repetitiveness?

NIKEstrad falls in faint.

---------------------------------------------

As for the original question, still a tough call. I was a bit disappointed in Lowry in the playoffs -- I kept waiting for him to break out, but it didn't seem to come. I think Lowry is more likely to have a longer useful career (he reminds me of Avery Johnson for some reason), while Brooks will have a better peak (Earl Boykins?).

 

Oh look, Nike with another quick cheap shot.....

DD - shrugs as usual.

DD